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| 2021-02-09 13:16:38 | <geekosaur> | @tell brttmsn combine the commands with >> |
| 2021-02-09 13:16:38 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
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| 2021-02-09 18:04:39 | <geekosaur> | well, I'm glad we're not the only project with problematic contributors, at least |
| 2021-02-09 18:04:50 | <geekosaur> | (watching discussion in someone else's dev channel) |
| 2021-02-09 18:24:55 | <Liskni_si> | mc47: btw I experimented with the "modern" communication tools recently |
| 2021-02-09 18:25:30 | <Liskni_si> | kind of expected to find a treasure trove full of excited xmonad users helping one another |
| 2021-02-09 18:27:22 | <Liskni_si> | instead I found 2 dead xmonad channels (on Matrix and FP Slack) and an FP Discord that doesn't have xmonad channel and where some people don't even know xmonad is in Haskell |
| 2021-02-09 18:27:32 | <mc47> | yikes |
| 2021-02-09 18:27:49 | <mc47> | I've gotten used to IRC tbh |
| 2021-02-09 18:28:17 | <mc47> | and with the log thing, I don't miss anything |
| 2021-02-09 18:28:37 | <Liskni_si> | seems all the excitement is here and on reddit, and then that distrotube guy |
| 2021-02-09 18:28:55 | <Liskni_si> | I've seen some discussions around clickable workspaces in his gitlab repo |
| 2021-02-09 18:29:22 | <geekosaur> | if you're interested in xmonad (or indeed tiling wms at all) you probably aren't all that into all-webby stuff :) |
| 2021-02-09 18:29:45 | <mc47> | It's weird that his dotfiles repo has pull requests and issues |
| 2021-02-09 18:29:52 | <geekosaur> | or whatever's hotnewstuff |
| 2021-02-09 18:30:03 | geekosaur | is slightly surprised his doesn't |
| 2021-02-09 18:30:18 | <mc47> | To be fair, I don't expect a channel that isn't advertised by the community to do well |
| 2021-02-09 18:30:30 | <geekosaur> | granting I haven't updated mine in a while, and what's there is somewhat buggy |
| 2021-02-09 18:30:57 | <geekosaur> | (and keeps getting broken by newer systems; I found a new zsh bug the other day, sigh) |
| 2021-02-09 18:31:23 | <Liskni_si> | geekosaur: if you had thousands of youtube/twitch followers, surely some of them would open PRs on your dotfiles :-) |
| 2021-02-09 18:31:34 | <mc47> | Definitely |
| 2021-02-09 18:31:58 | <geekosaur> | probably. not that I care enough to even try there |
| 2021-02-09 18:32:10 | <mc47> | The only thing I'd suggest now for the communication, is that we maybe experiment with github discussions |
| 2021-02-09 18:32:34 | <mc47> | although I did zero research on that, so I don't have a strong opinion |
| 2021-02-09 18:32:51 | <Liskni_si> | I think the most impactful thing we could do is get the website updated somehow |
| 2021-02-09 18:34:11 | <Liskni_si> | (I had one PR on my dotfiles a while ago, but I didn't get an e-mail about it because for some completely random reason I wasn't watching the repo, and then I found I'm not watching about half of my repos on github and had to create a script to fix that) |
| 2021-02-09 18:34:43 | <geekosaur> | I found the export page for the wiki the other day, we could hopefully use pandoc to move the wiki and maybe the website to the GH wiki |
| 2021-02-09 18:35:01 | <geekosaur> | dunno who has keys to the website. hoping it's not peti |
| 2021-02-09 18:35:08 | <Liskni_si> | everyone has |
| 2021-02-09 18:35:33 | <Liskni_si> | it's hosted from xmonad-web repo via github pages, so any merge goes live within a few seconds |
| 2021-02-09 18:35:48 | <geekosaur> | ah, good |
| 2021-02-09 18:36:04 | <geekosaur> | in that case we might as well use their wiki too |
| 2021-02-09 18:36:23 | <Liskni_si> | but the domain is owned by someone who volunteered for it on the mailing list a couple years back, iirc |
| 2021-02-09 18:36:36 | <Liskni_si> | whenever they stop paying for it, we're fucked :-) |
| 2021-02-09 18:50:18 | <mc47> | Yeah it probably makes sense to take care of the website first |
| 2021-02-09 18:51:43 | <Liskni_si> | (I'm not against doing anything with GitHub Discussions, just that I haven't seen them used anywhere yet, so I feel like they're not the thing that will help people the most) |
| 2021-02-09 18:58:49 | <mc47> | On another note, did someone else have problems while using "<raw=../>" with unicode? |
| 2021-02-09 18:59:42 | <Solid> | Liskni_si: the domain changes hands just a few months ago actually |
| 2021-02-09 19:00:04 | <Solid> | I'd think the person paying for everything would just contact the mailing list again that they don't care anymore |
| 2021-02-09 19:00:13 | <Solid> | and I'm sure someone would be there to step up |
| 2021-02-09 19:00:26 | <mc47> | I wanted to throw the (ugly) clickable workspaces solution I've hacked together for the library one, but xmobar doesn't like that the font awesome unicode is wrapped inside the raw tag and it fails to parse the string |
| 2021-02-09 19:00:27 | <geekosaur> | you assume they remember |
| 2021-02-09 19:00:36 | <Liskni_si> | that only works if they're sane/alive when they stop caring |
| 2021-02-09 19:00:40 | <geekosaur> | ofcourse they should get notified when it's up for renewal |
| 2021-02-09 19:01:17 | <geekosaur> | mc47, does it include any characters from private use areas? |
| 2021-02-09 19:01:43 | <mc47> | what's that? |
| 2021-02-09 19:02:11 | <mc47> | I'm trying to have something like "\xf2dc" in there |
| 2021-02-09 19:02:35 | <Solid> | okay when they die then we may have a problem, but I think we can deem that "unlikely" |
| 2021-02-09 19:03:11 | <mc47> | geekosaur a quick google search tells me that they're probably from private use areas |
| 2021-02-09 19:03:44 | <Liskni_si> | I just tried setting my terminal title to something unicodeish and didn't get a parse error |
| 2021-02-09 19:03:53 | <Liskni_si> | it didn't display properly either, though |
| 2021-02-09 19:03:55 | <Solid> | 19:29 <mc47> It's weird that his dotfiles repo has pull requests and issues << how does that work? "I want this feature, implement it for me"? x) |
| 2021-02-09 19:04:06 | <geekosaur> | yeh, and I think xmobar uses ghc's read which throws on PUA characters but escapes Haskell escapes for them |
| 2021-02-09 19:05:37 | <Liskni_si> | echo -ne "\033]0;smile: ☺\007" works |
| 2021-02-09 19:05:47 | <mc47> | Solid, I guess it's from people having problems replicating the config or asking how to tweak things. DT doesn't know haskel as far as I know |
| 2021-02-09 19:05:51 | geekosaur | ran into that working on X.U.Loggers.NamedScratchPads |
| 2021-02-09 19:06:04 | <geekosaur> | right but those are C escapes |
| 2021-02-09 19:06:37 | <Solid> | mc47: god I would hate that :D |
| 2021-02-09 19:06:39 | <geekosaur> | dunno what xmobar needs but it sounds like it dislikes actual private use area chars, so try escape sequences for them. |
| 2021-02-09 19:07:35 | <mc47> | geekosaur I'll try that, thanks |
| 2021-02-09 19:07:49 | <geekosaur> | I don't know which escapes it wants though |
| 2021-02-09 19:08:01 | <geekosaur> | C style, JSON/JS style, Haskell style… |
| 2021-02-09 19:08:38 | <mc47> | Solid, thank God not enough people see my config.. The only thing I have in the readme is a .desktop file that I need to use to override another .desktop file :D |
| 2021-02-09 19:08:54 | <Solid> | hah |
| 2021-02-09 19:11:44 | <geekosaur> | o.O no watches but two people have forked my xmonad config at some point |
| 2021-02-09 19:12:11 | <geekosaur> | which is especiially interesting as the useful parts are in branches, the main repo just has a couple quickie utilities in it |
| 2021-02-09 19:12:21 | <geekosaur> | s/the main repo/master/ |
| 2021-02-09 19:12:48 | <geekosaur> | nobody has my dotfiles, not that I advertise them widely |
| 2021-02-09 19:13:03 | <geekosaur> | I've at least linked to my configs occasionally |
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| 2021-02-09 19:14:59 | <Solid> | dotfile forks are pretty funny :D |
| 2021-02-09 19:15:46 | Solid | thankfully has none of that, though he hasn't advertised his dotfiles anywhere he knows of either |
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| 2021-02-09 19:37:21 | <Solid> | fully support updating the website btw; then we can finally link people to it again |
| 2021-02-09 19:37:42 | <Solid> | I'll try to finish rewriting that tutorial when my exams are done |
| 2021-02-09 19:38:31 | geekosaur | still needs to update xmonad-testing with cabal 3 foo |
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