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2021-03-10 16:18:16 <daphnis> has anyone tried xmonad with a superwide screen? i imagine it would be a bit annoying with few windows.
2021-03-10 16:18:58 <heck-to-the-gnom> Yes, take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70IxjLEmomg
2021-03-10 16:19:39 <heck-to-the-gnom> You can have multiple 'screens' within one layout
2021-03-10 16:20:18 <heck-to-the-gnom> you can also, like this person does it, have it dynamically adjust itself depending on resolution. e.g switching from laptop to monitor screen
2021-03-10 16:23:59 <Liskni_si> daphnis: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Layout/LayoutScreens.hs or https://chipsenkbeil.com/notes/linux-virtual-monitors-with-xrandr/
2021-03-10 16:24:49 <daphnis> thanks!
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2021-03-10 17:02:45 <geekosaur> you could also use a layout like ThreeColumn
2021-03-10 17:04:00 <heck-to-the-gnom> or sublayouts, with something like threecolumn
2021-03-10 17:05:10 <daphnis> hm, it's the solarized guy
2021-03-10 17:06:02 <geekosaur> LayoutCombinators lets you arbitrarily split the screen up horizontally or vertically
2021-03-10 17:06:16 <daphnis> i'm using three columns now, but i was thinking of a really wide screen (50")
2021-03-10 17:07:04 <daphnis> what is the thing called tabbed grouped layouts in the video?
2021-03-10 17:11:16 <heck-to-the-gnom> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-SubLayouts.html
2021-03-10 17:11:16 <heck-to-the-gnom> and
2021-03-10 17:11:16 <heck-to-the-gnom> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-Tabbed.html
2021-03-10 17:13:05 <daphnis> looks promising
2021-03-10 17:18:43 <heck-to-the-gnom> It failed for me (weird artifacts), but that may be due to other modifiers I have
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2021-03-10 18:24:19 <heck-to-the-gnom> geekosaur: Why hasn't a release been done in several years? `xmonad-contrib` is bustling w/ activity rn, or at least, in comparison to the niche-ness of a tiling wm, it's pretty active.
2021-03-10 18:24:27 <geekosaur> it
2021-03-10 18:24:45 <geekosaur> 's bustling with activity because we'd like t make a release in time for the next debian release freeze
2021-03-10 18:26:01 <heck-to-the-gnom> Ah, 2 days
2021-03-10 18:27:36 <geekosaur> sounds like we won't quite make it, or at least some changes won't
2021-03-10 18:29:08 <heck-to-the-gnom> Sorry if I was a huge timesink to anyone working on that. I had no idea this was happening.
2021-03-10 18:30:47 <geekosaur> no, I think we just tossed a few too many logs on the fire. (there's a redesign of the statusbar stuff going on, for instance, which probably won't make it)
2021-03-10 18:31:30 <Liskni_si> are we really trying to make the release before the freeze?
2021-03-10 18:31:30 <heck-to-the-gnom> You could always just go back a few commits for the release, couldn't you?
2021-03-10 18:31:40 <Liskni_si> I've sort of given up on that tbh :-/
2021-03-10 18:32:26 <geekosaur> Liskni_si, that was what started the whole rush. things like the above and peti kinda slowed the whole thing down, though
2021-03-10 18:32:53 <Liskni_si> oh
2021-03-10 18:33:16 <Liskni_si> I just thought it'd be nice to make it by then, but it was never a hard deadline to me
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2021-03-10 18:33:50 <geekosaur> well, I don't know how hard it is. would be nice to have the version in debian not be ancient, bu then it is debian…
2021-03-10 18:34:06 <Liskni_si> although yeah, if the peti incident hadn't happened, we could've had the core released by now
2021-03-10 18:35:20 <Liskni_si> also, the peti incident led me to trying to contact debian maintainers and that went nowhere
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2021-03-10 18:35:35 <Liskni_si> so caring about debian seems a bit futile at this point
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2021-03-10 18:36:33 <Liskni_si> I should maybe ping nomeata as he's listed among the debian xmonad maintainers and we've had some very nice interactions in the arbtt project
2021-03-10 18:36:36 <geekosaur> I think we could still release without the new statusbar stuff and a few other things that are pending, if we wanted to — but you're also right about no response from the debian maintainers
2021-03-10 18:37:17 <Liskni_si> yeah, if we really wanted to release, that could definitely be done
2021-03-10 18:37:50 <mc47> don't we have breaking changes that are fixed by 399?
2021-03-10 18:38:02 <Liskni_si> but I'd really like to deal with the ewmh window activation and statusbar stuff before that
2021-03-10 18:38:21 <Liskni_si> otherwise keeping compatibility will become way more painful than it already is
2021-03-10 18:38:45 <Liskni_si> mc47: yeah we do, but some of that could be reverted for the release perhaps
2021-03-10 18:39:46 <mc47> oh, right
2021-03-10 18:39:51 <Liskni_si> heck-to-the-gnom: anyway your being a timesink has had no measurable impact on these things I'd say :-)
2021-03-10 18:40:31 <Liskni_si> (not to encourage you to be more of a timesink, just to clarify the timescales we're talking about)
2021-03-10 18:42:11 <heck-to-the-gnom> :)
2021-03-10 18:43:10 <heck-to-the-gnom> Nah, I'll bother others with my time. I've gotten some nix things sorted out on my end, and the stuff we were discussing earlier should start working once I get a nix derivation made.
2021-03-10 18:44:43 <geekosaur> actually you were somewhat helpful I'd say, in testing some of the new stuff
2021-03-10 18:44:59 <geekosaur> and pointing out e.g. missed dependencies
2021-03-10 18:45:30 <geekosaur> (although I'd also argue that if you're running git xmonad you should say so up front to avoid problems like the MaybeManageHook one)
2021-03-10 18:46:21 <heck-to-the-gnom> I plan to get more involved with this project in the future. I'm still in the baby Haskell programmer stage, though.
2021-03-10 18:46:46 <geekosaur> many of us started out as baby haskell programmers
2021-03-10 18:46:54 <geekosaur> xmonad is still a gateway drug :)
2021-03-10 18:47:08 <heck-to-the-gnom> I'm fine hittin' that :)
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2021-03-10 18:49:42 <Liskni_si> good to hear you're planning to get more involved!
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2021-03-10 18:58:05 <Solid> heck-to-the-gnom: I'm still a baby haskeller and I managed to contribute so you can too!
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2021-03-10 19:00:54 <Solid> I'd like to see the status bar stuff in the new release already I have to say
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2021-03-10 19:01:32 <Solid> and I don't _only_ say this because my rewrite of the tutorial is already like 75% done and uses property logging so far :P
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2021-03-10 19:03:27 <heck-to-the-gnom> If I find myself with more freetime today & tomorrow, I'll see what I can assist w/
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2021-03-10 19:14:32 <Solid> \o/
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