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| 2021-03-23 07:01:04 | <IRC-safeguard> | hey guys, I made a xmonad telegram group, if you want to join here is the link: https://t.me/xmonadtelegramunofficial (sorry for the spam, but I kinda want the xmonad community to grow) |
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| 2021-03-23 07:34:52 | <Solid> | that seems vaguely menacing |
| 2021-03-23 07:35:24 | <IRC-safeguard> | no no haha, no one's forced to |
| 2021-03-23 07:37:46 | <Solid> | aren't there ads now in telegram groups |
| 2021-03-23 07:37:49 | <Solid> | I remember reading about this |
| 2021-03-23 07:37:56 | <IRC-safeguard> | nope |
| 2021-03-23 07:37:59 | <IRC-safeguard> | at least not in mine |
| 2021-03-23 07:39:40 | <Solid> | ah I think it's still to-come then |
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| 2021-03-23 07:39:49 | <IRC-safeguard> | hope not |
| 2021-03-23 07:40:08 | <IRC-safeguard> | and even if that happens, in my group there will be no such thing. I believe in freedom and privacy |
| 2021-03-23 07:40:37 | <Solid> | I don't think you can control that |
| 2021-03-23 07:40:54 | <IRC-safeguard> | hope I can :/ |
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| 2021-03-23 07:41:24 | <Solid> | https://www.techworm.net/2020/12/telegram-group-voice-chats-monetization.html |
| 2021-03-23 07:41:27 | <Solid> | this is what I found just now |
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| 2021-03-23 07:44:56 | <IRC-safeguard> | well |
| 2021-03-23 07:44:59 | <IRC-safeguard> | shit |
| 2021-03-23 07:45:12 | <IRC-safeguard> | anyway, if anyone's intrested you're free to join |
| 2021-03-23 07:45:26 | <IRC-safeguard> | again, sorry for the spam but i'm trying to make the Xmonad community grow |
| 2021-03-23 07:45:56 | <Solid> | I at least appreciate the effort :) |
| 2021-03-23 07:46:04 | <IRC-safeguard> | thank :) |
| 2021-03-23 07:47:43 | <IRC-safeguard> | I do believe that xmonad is the most powerful wm out there, but it comes at the cost of a high haskell knowledge |
| 2021-03-23 07:48:10 | <Solid> | I've seen a lot of people use xmonad just fine without any haskell knowledge |
| 2021-03-23 07:48:28 | <Solid> | thanks to the 300-ish contrib modules |
| 2021-03-23 07:49:08 | <IRC-safeguard> | yeah, but for more complicated things like independent screens you need to know haskell and what you're doing |
| 2021-03-23 07:49:27 | <IRC-safeguard> | that is why I'm currently using bspwm, because configuring independent screens on xmonad is kind of a pain |
| 2021-03-23 07:49:36 | <IRC-safeguard> | also the trayer padding for xmobar |
| 2021-03-23 07:49:38 | <Solid> | ah yes, for the hacky modules you may need to know a bit of haskell |
| 2021-03-23 07:49:59 | <IRC-safeguard> | exactly |
| 2021-03-23 07:50:09 | <IRC-safeguard> | also the xmobar thing |
| 2021-03-23 07:50:31 | <Solid> | I think that's solved by a shell script in an obscure issue |
| 2021-03-23 07:50:44 | <IRC-safeguard> | I tried it, but it doesn't work on me.. |
| 2021-03-23 07:51:26 | <Solid> | weird, I've heard it works well for people |
| 2021-03-23 07:51:40 | <Solid> | there's also an open pr right now to add something haskell-based to X.U.Hacks |
| 2021-03-23 07:51:46 | <IRC-safeguard> | https://github.com/jaor/xmobar/issues/239#issuecomment-233206552 you're referring to this one right? |
| 2021-03-23 07:51:46 | <Solid> | so maybe that'll become an option for the next release |
| 2021-03-23 07:51:52 | <IRC-safeguard> | wdym? |
| 2021-03-23 07:51:53 | <Solid> | yeah that one |
| 2021-03-23 07:52:20 | <IRC-safeguard> | I tried, maybe it's cause i tried that on bspwm,but the tray would not appear |
| 2021-03-23 07:52:31 | <Solid> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/490 |
| 2021-03-23 07:52:39 | <Solid> | this is about stacking trayer on top of xmobar and keeping it there |
| 2021-03-23 07:53:06 | <Solid> | so that'll probably be available with 0.17 |
| 2021-03-23 07:53:15 | <IRC-safeguard> | cool! |
| 2021-03-23 07:53:25 | <Solid> | we should probably mention that in the new tutorial |
| 2021-03-23 07:53:37 | <IRC-safeguard> | then I need to only know how to make independent screens lol |
| 2021-03-23 07:54:20 | <Solid> | or just try to get used to the default behaviour :D |
| 2021-03-23 07:54:30 | <IRC-safeguard> | I just can't, tried for like 5 months |
| 2021-03-23 07:54:44 | <IRC-safeguard> | when I switched to dwm it was like removing a splinter |
| 2021-03-23 07:55:02 | <IRC-safeguard> | and when I switched to bspwm it was like ascending lol |
| 2021-03-23 07:55:12 | <Solid> | lol |
| 2021-03-23 07:55:22 | <IRC-safeguard> | because I keep moving between workspaces, the default behaviour breaks how I work |
| 2021-03-23 07:56:04 | <IRC-safeguard> | but, I'm trying to learn how to independent screens so I can switch back to xmonad |
| 2021-03-23 07:56:34 | <Solid> | I mean the basic setup should not be that hard |
| 2021-03-23 07:56:44 | <IRC-safeguard> | the problem arises when I undock the laptop, I dunno if I can make it recognize that and make xmonad use only the laptop screen |
| 2021-03-23 07:57:05 | <IRC-safeguard> | I tried, but couldn't make it work |
| 2021-03-23 07:57:15 | <IRC-safeguard> | I have peanut brain |
| 2021-03-23 08:00:47 | <Solid> | The undocking part sounds like an X11 thing, not xmonad related |
| 2021-03-23 08:00:50 | <Solid> | unless I'm misunderstanding you |
| 2021-03-23 08:01:15 | <IRC-safeguard> | let me give you context |
| 2021-03-23 08:03:06 | <IRC-safeguard> | I have a docking station with two additional monitors; when I dock it i have a xrandr script that was generated by arandr, which makes the monitor not overlap and at max resolution, and side by side. that make bspwm have in total 30 workspaces. when I undock I run another script so X disabled the external monitors |
| 2021-03-23 08:03:31 | <IRC-safeguard> | I basically want to have 27 workspaces with also xmonad when I'm undocked, but I just can't have make it work |
| 2021-03-23 08:03:38 | <IRC-safeguard> | expecially the xmobar part |
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| 2021-03-23 08:06:13 | <Solid> | the 27 screens thing sounds like you'd just need `workspaces = withScreens 3 (map show [1..9 :: Int])` no? |
| 2021-03-23 08:06:22 | <Solid> | I will admit that I've never used IndependentScreens |
| 2021-03-23 08:06:23 | <IRC-safeguard> | yeah |
| 2021-03-23 08:06:50 | <IRC-safeguard> | i followed these two: |
| 2021-03-23 08:06:52 | <IRC-safeguard> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/490 |
| 2021-03-23 08:07:22 | <IRC-safeguard> | https://github.com/ivanbrennan/nixbox/blob/d5b54fe2c0b672273f053c31eaaee17c4b1e65e9/services/xserver/xmonad.hs |
| 2021-03-23 08:09:05 | <Solid> | first link is probably not what you wanted to send ;) |
| 2021-03-23 08:09:09 | <IRC-safeguard> | (my base configs are distrotube's config tweaked for my likings, I'm that lazy and without shame xD) |
| 2021-03-23 08:09:13 | <Solid> | `countScreent` counts the number of screens when xmonad starts up |
| 2021-03-23 08:09:25 | <Solid> | probably not what you want if you _always_ want 27 workspaces |
| 2021-03-23 08:09:32 | <IRC-safeguard> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-IndependentScreens.html yeah |
| 2021-03-23 08:09:38 | <IRC-safeguard> | damn clipman |
| 2021-03-23 08:10:04 | <IRC-safeguard> | i don't always want 27 workspaces, just when i have the monitor plugged in |
| 2021-03-23 08:11:01 | <Solid> | now I'm confused, you did say "I basically want to have 27 workspaces with also xmonad when I'm undocked" |
| 2021-03-23 08:11:09 | <Solid> | undocked = only the laptop screens is active, no? |
| 2021-03-23 08:11:14 | <IRC-safeguard> | exactly |
| 2021-03-23 08:11:22 | <IRC-safeguard> | sorry if I expressed myself badly |
| 2021-03-23 08:11:33 | <IRC-safeguard> | undocked = 9 workspaces, docked: 27 |
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