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| 2021-05-29 21:16:49 | <hololeap> | I just want to get a quick poll, when writing code, do you stay strictly below the 80 char limit on lines? |
| 2021-05-29 21:17:25 | <geekosaur> | for code intended for distribution, yes. for my own stuff, not necessarily |
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| 2021-05-29 21:19:14 | <dminuoso> | Nope. My measure is half a screen on my 27" WQHD screen with the font size Im comfortable with. :p |
| 2021-05-29 21:19:31 | <dminuoso> | Since that's usually the size of my emacs |
| 2021-05-29 21:19:58 | <Bartosz> | zebrag : you mean terminal object. |
| 2021-05-29 21:20:00 | <davean> | hololeap: absolutely not |
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| 2021-05-29 21:20:06 | <yushyin> | 80 is more of a soft limit to me, and 120 a hard limit. |
| 2021-05-29 21:20:16 | <boxscape> | ^ |
| 2021-05-29 21:20:30 | <hololeap> | interesting. it seems kind of antiquated, but I still get kinda OCD about it for no real reason. I'm thinking about moving my word wrap marker to something higher |
| 2021-05-29 21:20:33 | <Rembane> | I use what Brittany uses |
| 2021-05-29 21:20:47 | <hololeap> | 80 just seems kind of rediculous at times |
| 2021-05-29 21:21:00 | <davean> | 80 char limits is a joke IMO |
| 2021-05-29 21:21:02 | <dminuoso> | hololeap: My code frequently looks like cabal, with long identifiers often. |
| 2021-05-29 21:21:03 | <boxscape> | for comments I do 79 without exceptions |
| 2021-05-29 21:21:05 | <ski> | hololeap : yes. and if i'm using pages, i often try to keep them at most sixtysix lines |
| 2021-05-29 21:21:13 | <dminuoso> | 80 characters would be limiting |
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| 2021-05-29 21:21:38 | <boxscape> | (well, one exception: having a URL in a comment that's > 79 characters) |
| 2021-05-29 21:21:49 | <ski> | (yes) |
| 2021-05-29 21:23:02 | <boxscape> | is 66 lines a widely accepted limit as well? |
| 2021-05-29 21:23:08 | <superstar64> | hololeap, i don't use a limit |
| 2021-05-29 21:23:19 | <geekosaur> | I don't see much use of pages as such any more |
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| 2021-05-29 21:23:33 | <geekosaur> | they kinda went away when line printers did |
| 2021-05-29 21:23:39 | <superstar64> | i just let my text editor do line wrapping when they get too big |
| 2021-05-29 21:24:24 | <[exa]> | hololeap: I'm doing the same purposefully, reading and navigating long code lines is super bad |
| 2021-05-29 21:24:29 | <ski> | boxscape : "Pagination" section of Riastradh's <https://mumble.net/~campbell/scheme/style.txt> mentions it |
| 2021-05-29 21:24:39 | <boxscape> | I see, thanks |
| 2021-05-29 21:24:42 | <dminuoso> | geekosaur: what is `pages`? |
| 2021-05-29 21:25:15 | <ski> | the subdivisions of a file by form feeds |
| 2021-05-29 21:25:25 | <dminuoso> | Mmm |
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| 2021-05-29 21:26:31 | <Athas> | Any suggestions for tweaking the GHC GC for throughput? I don't care about latency. Currently I have '-A4m -qg1 -N', which seems to work OK. Actually surprised that parallel GC is now a (small) improvement; it didn't use to be. |
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| 2021-05-29 21:28:01 | <[exa]> | hololeap: btw one reason for breaking long stuff is that you can more easily see the structure and (non-)complexity of the expression if it's easy to see the starts of sub-expressions |
| 2021-05-29 21:28:29 | <[exa]> | wow ^L is new |
| 2021-05-29 21:28:42 | <geekosaur> | not for some of us :) |
| 2021-05-29 21:28:55 | <geekosaur> | or escape sequence \f |
| 2021-05-29 21:28:59 | <hololeap> | [exa]: yeah I like to break up my type signatures when possible (aka when it doesn't look stupid) |
| 2021-05-29 21:29:43 | <hololeap> | Athas: I read something recently where a company figured out how to get some massive throughput with GHC. I'll see if I can find it |
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| 2021-05-29 21:30:57 | <geekosaur> | at one point dons had a program that would try various combinations of (compile time and I think run time) options to get the fastest program. it's massively bitrotted of course at this point |
| 2021-05-29 21:31:33 | <davean> | Athas: parallel gc benefits are entirely dataset dependent |
| 2021-05-29 21:32:42 | <Athas> | davean: sure, but I recall it previously being a net negative for my workload. |
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| 2021-05-29 21:32:52 | <Athas> | Of course I have upgraded both my machine and GHC since then. |
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| 2021-05-29 21:41:28 | <hololeap> | Athas: found it: https://tech.channable.com/posts/2020-04-07-lessons-in-managing-haskell-memory.html |
| 2021-05-29 21:42:25 | <Athas> | hololeap: thanks, I'll give it a read. |
| 2021-05-29 21:43:08 | <__monty__> | hololeap: Strict 80 here as well. Leaves so much more room on my screen for browsers and whatnot. |
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| 2021-05-29 21:44:31 | <hololeap> | __monty__: that's fair. out of curiosity, what WM do you use? |
| 2021-05-29 21:44:40 | <Athas> | I wonder if I could use compact regions, or if that would fly too close to the sun... |
| 2021-05-29 21:45:25 | <__monty__> | hololeap: Anything but tiling. I want fixed widths for most of my windows. |
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