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| 2021-05-22 18:36:25 | <__monty__> | Yep. |
| 2021-05-22 18:36:43 | <__monty__> | /msg #libera-cloaks !cloakme |
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| 2021-05-22 18:36:55 | <__monty__> | That gets you a user/<nick> cloak. |
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| 2021-05-22 18:37:13 | <__monty__> | And it does seem to be the replacement for the unaffiliated cloaks. |
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| 2021-05-22 18:40:11 | <sm> | why are cloaks a thing ? shouldn't it happen automatically ? |
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| 2021-05-22 18:43:30 | <geekosaur> | some people want to hide their ip address, others don't or don't care |
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| 2021-05-22 18:44:19 | <sm> | seems like it should be the default these days |
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| 2021-05-22 18:48:00 | <tomsmeding> | Agreed; for me I don't care since the ip address is my public VPS anyway, but I can't imagine a case where a cloak would _hurt_ anyone |
| 2021-05-22 18:48:38 | <__monty__> | Well, they do give a bit of a false sense of security. |
| 2021-05-22 18:48:58 | <__monty__> | They only hide your IP from low-effort snooping. |
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| 2021-05-22 18:49:41 | <gentauro> | __monty__: let them work for it ;) |
| 2021-05-22 18:49:54 | <monochrom> | I care because I need to ban spammers and trolls without banning other users, even when all of them have the same self-selected nick and "username". |
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| 2021-05-22 18:51:01 | <monochrom> | From easiest to hardest for changing: nickname and username, cloak, IP address. |
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| 2021-05-22 18:51:41 | <monochrom> | As much as possible I would want the harder end, e.g. IP address, exposed to at least me so I can ban the right troll. |
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| 2021-05-22 18:52:51 | <monochrom> | So this is generally what's wrong with some of the liberal minds. They forget that bad people still exist and there needs some countermeasure that sacrifies a little bit of their utopian ideal. |
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| 2021-05-22 18:53:18 | <monochrom> | Don't worry, I have my gripes against the conservative ideals too. |
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| 2021-05-22 18:55:32 | <maerwald> | __monty__: that didn't work |
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| 2021-05-22 18:55:40 | <tomsmeding> | monochrom: very true, but in that case you kind of want either no cloaks at all, or only upon request with some kind of selective process |
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| 2021-05-22 18:55:59 | <monochrom> | Also cryptographically hashing IP addresses is a bad idea because there are times banning 123.456.789.* is the most balanced measure. |
| 2021-05-22 18:56:18 | <enikar> | maerwald: use #libera-cloak not #libera-cloaks! |
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| 2021-05-22 18:56:38 | <maerwald> | didn't work either |
| 2021-05-22 18:56:55 | <tomsmeding> | Ask in #libera |
| 2021-05-22 18:56:58 | <enikar> | maerwald: also, I have /join this channel for this to work |
| 2021-05-22 18:57:04 | <tomsmeding> | You wouldn't be the first one :p |
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| 2021-05-22 18:57:12 | <tomsmeding> | (to ask, I mean) |
| 2021-05-22 18:57:17 | <maerwald> | too much effort |
| 2021-05-22 18:57:22 | <tomsmeding> | 👌 |
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| 2021-05-22 18:57:36 | <maerwald> | just pointing out that none of the instructions work :p |
| 2021-05-22 18:57:37 | <monochrom> | Yeah I would agree with some person or some AI doing some oversight over giving out cloaks. |
| 2021-05-22 18:58:01 | <enikar> | maerwald: /join #libera-cloak, then put !cloakme |
| 2021-05-22 18:58:09 | <enikar> | that worked for me. |
| 2021-05-22 18:58:13 | <__monty__> | maerwald: Do note it's not instant. |
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