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2021-07-10 23:37:56 <geekosaur> tsk. :)
2021-07-10 23:38:48 <^[> I thought it only affected JS, but it also causes the context menu to be shifted as if the border wasn't there.
2021-07-10 23:39:12 <geekosaur> that doesn't surprise me too much
2021-07-10 23:40:34 <geekosaur> much of firefox is either JS or the underlying stuff their JS is built upon
2021-07-10 23:40:46 <geekosaur> which I forget the name of
2021-07-10 23:41:06 <^[> Used to be XUL, I think, but that's either gone or on the way out.
2021-07-10 23:41:32 <^[> Or is that what got replaced by JS for the UI?
2021-07-10 23:42:16 <geekosaur> I was thinking of XBL which is even older
2021-07-10 23:42:52 <geekosaur> looks like Web Components now? but it's all the same basic idea, the browser is built on JS which is built on top of another layer
2021-07-10 23:43:19 <geekosaur> the browser itself but not web-sourced JS has direct access to the underlayer
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2021-07-11 01:59:41 <Nosrep> what do i do if i accidentally shrink a floating window so much i can't see it anymore and let go
2021-07-11 01:59:44 <Nosrep> asking for a friend
2021-07-11 02:00:06 <Endermen1094[m]> Should i try xmonad as a first time dynamic tiling window manager ?
2021-07-11 02:00:53 <Endermen1094[m]> My current setup is a gentoo install on a lenovo laptop
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2021-07-11 02:05:18 <Nosrep> yes
2021-07-11 02:05:39 <Nosrep> i think i3 is more beginner friendly though
2021-07-11 02:05:46 <Nosrep> or even bspwm
2021-07-11 02:05:54 <Nosrep> config file might be hardish if you don't know haskell
2021-07-11 02:07:02 <geekosaur> people here are often helpful with getting a config file going, or you can search github or etc. for others' configs
2021-07-11 02:07:45 <Endermen1094[m]> <Nosrep "yes"> Currently compiling desktop/gnome @world set and installing the system and bootloader
2021-07-11 02:07:56 <Nosrep> mkday
2021-07-11 02:08:03 <Nosrep> i am good at typig
2021-07-11 02:09:39 <Endermen1094[m]> So install dmenu or will it bring it in as a depwncece ?
2021-07-11 02:10:15 <Endermen1094[m]> <Nosrep "i am good at typig"> Is that ment to be interpreted as sarcasm ?
2021-07-11 02:10:28 <Nosrep> you decide
2021-07-11 02:10:31 <geekosaur> Nosrep, it should still be focused, so mod-t to tile it
2021-07-11 02:10:40 <Nosrep> oh right
2021-07-11 02:10:42 <Nosrep> forgot about that
2021-07-11 02:10:48 <geekosaur> if it's not, mod-j until no window appears to be focused and then mod-t
2021-07-11 02:10:51 <Nosrep> also i don't think it installs dmenu as a dep, ine didn't
2021-07-11 02:11:17 <Nosrep> (also rofi ftw but w/e)
2021-07-11 02:11:54 <geekosaur> no, it doesn't generally get marked as a dependency. (if it did they'd probably also mark gmrun as a dependency since that's what the shifted version runs)
2021-07-11 02:14:14 <geekosaur> but also people might choose to rebind to use XMonad.Prompt.Shell or something, like I did
2021-07-11 02:18:11 <Endermen1094[m]> So install dmenu, a Bluetooth manager , a network manager , lightdm , xfce4-termenal ,and Firefox. To. Have a set up base system ?
2021-07-11 02:19:37 <Endermen1094[m]> <Nosrep "config file might be hardish if "> I will try to learn it
2021-07-11 02:19:58 <Nosrep> my "base" system is like
2021-07-11 02:20:03 <Nosrep> uh
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2021-07-11 02:21:19 <Nosrep> xmonad, rofi, firefox, kitty, pulseaudio, redshift, dhcpcd(idk why i need it but for some reason it fixed my internet),
2021-07-11 02:21:34 <Nosrep> picom
2021-07-11 02:22:04 <Nosrep> zsh
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2021-07-11 02:22:47 <Nosrep> and a few other obvious stuff like sudo and other misc packages
2021-07-11 02:23:14 <Endermen1094[m]> Yep
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2021-07-11 02:24:42 <Endermen1094[m]> <Nosrep "xmonad, rofi, firefox, kitty, pu"> Dhcpcd automatically gives you a ip that is not static
2021-07-11 02:24:58 <geekosaur> yeh, your machine can't access the internet without dhcpcd or something which does the same thing
2021-07-11 02:25:14 <geekosaur> or you have a static ip address but that's rare these days
2021-07-11 02:25:19 <Nosrep> that expalins it
2021-07-11 02:25:45 <geekosaur> even if you have a fixed address most networks aare configured to give it out via dhcp
2021-07-11 02:26:02 <Nosrep> wait so does dnsmasq do the same thing
2021-07-11 02:26:21 <geekosaur> yes
2021-07-11 02:26:53 <Nosrep> speaking of dhcpcd
2021-07-11 02:26:54 <geekosaur> like, my router uses dnsmasq to among other things give out dhcp addresses
2021-07-11 02:26:56 <Nosrep> how's roy marples doing
2021-07-11 02:27:44 <Nosrep> still alive at least
2021-07-11 02:28:37 <Nosrep> so i guess i can delete dhcpcd?
2021-07-11 02:28:51 <Nosrep> i have dnsmasq from a dep of libvirtd's networking thing i think
2021-07-11 02:29:35 <geekosaur> hm, actually dnsmasq may do the other end of it only
2021-07-11 02:30:28 <geekosaur> yeh, sorry, it's only a server not a client
2021-07-11 02:30:40 <Nosrep> o rip
2021-07-11 02:30:41 <geekosaur> not sure what does the client end on my router
2021-07-11 02:37:02 <Nosrep> poll: do you guys have borders on your xmonad windows
2021-07-11 02:37:13 <Nosrep> i dont because fadeinactive just looks better
2021-07-11 02:39:40 <geekosaur> I use both borders and compton's inactive-dim (not fadeinactive even though I wrote it because I don;t so much want transparency as fading)
2021-07-11 02:40:09 <geekosaur> but I'm apparently weird that way, I dislike transparency in general
2021-07-11 02:42:28 <Nosrep> you wrote fadeinactive?
2021-07-11 02:42:32 <Nosrep> thats cool
2021-07-11 02:42:42 <Nosrep> also why compton
2021-07-11 02:42:47 <Nosrep> isn't it mostly unmaintained these days
2021-07-11 02:45:23 <geekosaur> it still works and is what my distro had packaged :)
2021-07-11 02:45:36 <geekosaur> and I keep hearing of performance issues with various versions of picom
2021-07-11 02:48:13 <Nosrep> hm
2021-07-11 02:48:15 <Nosrep> it's fine for me
2021-07-11 02:48:23 <Nosrep> <5% gpu usage and i have a *really* weak gpu
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