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2025-04-29 15:19:10 <geekosaur> the reasons have differed over the years. originally it was an issue with the "cashew" that we had to patch around, then it was issues with how they manage their panels that they need to be patched around since they don't care about compatibility with other wms
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2025-04-29 20:51:56 <OftenFaded> when arranging xmonad keybinds, are there any mappings that should be avoided or any default binds that are best left unchanged?
2025-04-29 20:53:36 <OftenFaded> or what question should I be asking here? Maybe best practice is to leave all default binds and only add minimally what is helpful?
2025-04-29 20:57:59 <vrs> mod-shift-space, mod-t and mod-q are pretty important
2025-04-29 20:58:14 <vrs> especially when experimenting
2025-04-29 21:01:54 <geekosaur> I have all my added bindings with ctrl added, fwiw
2025-04-29 21:04:57 <OftenFaded> geekosaur so you keep the defaults as is, and bind all additions to a ctrl + xyz scheme? How do you not run into issues/conflicts with all the apps that have default ctrl keybindings?
2025-04-29 21:05:29 <geekosaur> no, I add ctrl. so my bindings are mod+ctrl+…
2025-04-29 21:07:01 <OftenFaded> Ohhh, I see because you can basically hit both with one finger
2025-04-29 21:07:09 <OftenFaded> I may adopt something similar then
2025-04-29 21:07:37 <geekosaur> well, not quite because I'm ancient so I always swap caps lock and ctrl 🙂
2025-04-29 21:13:12 <OftenFaded> damn, thats even more genius--please keep the wisdom rolling
2025-04-29 21:13:57 <OftenFaded> wait, this just seems logical, what about this comes from being old?
2025-04-29 21:14:02 <geekosaur> (rockin the 80s 🙂 )
2025-04-29 21:14:41 <OftenFaded> most are in agreement about all the best art was made in the 80s
2025-04-29 21:32:45 <fizzie> A number of "Unix" keyboards (at least the Sun Type <some-number> ones I've seen) have caps lock and control swapped compared to the "PC" layout, I imagine that's the "old" part.
2025-04-29 21:50:27 <geekosaur> yes, that was how 80s engineering workstations and terminals worked. ISO went with the other layout, PCs followed
2025-04-29 21:54:56 <geekosaur> (because that weas how typewriters were laid out, noting that caps lock was actually shift lock and that nobody imagined typewriters would be obsolete like 5 years later)
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2025-04-30 22:58:46 <rascasse> hi, trying to install xmonad from sources (git), after stack init, stack install fails "while building pkg X11-1.10.3
2025-04-30 22:59:16 <rascasse> stack version is 3.5.1
2025-04-30 23:00:20 <rascasse> ghc seems to be 9.8.4
2025-04-30 23:01:29 <rascasse> picked snapshot is lts 23 19

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