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2025-08-01 15:57:11 <f-a> Hello xmonad users. I would like to have something to remind me the battery is low. (sound? message?) Which is a good, lightweight option? I use xmonad without a DE.
2025-08-01 16:01:46 <geekosaur> xmobar has a battery indicator. most others are XDG indicator applets for which you want trayer
2025-08-01 16:01:46 <L29Ah> f-a: i use acpid + dunst
2025-08-01 16:02:35 <L29Ah> also on a dedicated workspace i have an one character high screen-wide urxvt window with miscellaneous stats including battery charge and power
2025-08-01 16:07:36 <f-a> yes I should have specified, low battery bites me when I am watching a video or playing backgammon, so not keeping an eye on tmux status bar (where the charge % is indicated)
2025-08-01 16:23:44 <Leary> Could try 'upower-notify', though I'd be tempted to just write a cron job.
2025-08-01 16:24:34 <f-a> mhhh
2025-08-01 16:24:37 <f-a> that could work
2025-08-01 16:27:05 <f-a> emh, what do xmonad people use to, uhhh, receive/display notifications?
2025-08-01 16:28:50 <Leary> I use dzen2.
2025-08-01 16:28:53 <f-a> thanks
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2025-08-01 17:22:35 <L29Ah> dunst
2025-08-01 17:23:27 <f-a> dunst seems nice and light too
2025-08-01 17:49:32 <haskellbridge> <austin128> does anyone have a good recommendation for like a settings app, like one manage network settings and display refresh rate. I have found an app for network management but it would be nice to have it in a single app like a normal desktop system
2025-08-01 17:51:05 <L29Ah> try kde or gnome
2025-08-01 17:51:45 <haskellbridge> <austin128> If I install the kde setttings manager does it have a ton of dependencies or is it not terrible
2025-08-01 17:52:51 <L29Ah> i have no clue, but i find the requirement that you gave necessarily resulting in tons of dependencies and being terrible
2025-08-01 17:53:02 <haskellbridge> <austin128> fair
2025-08-01 21:17:40 <geekosaur> personally, I use Mate because it's smaller than KDE or Gnome and it's relatively easy to integrate XMonad with it (see the wiki)
2025-08-01 21:39:53 <liskin> f-a: I just use this simple thing - https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/home/bin/liskin-battery-watch
2025-08-01 21:41:18 <liskin> It's possible it can be made simpler with upower but up until very recently it was impossible to configure it to not do stuff on its own
2025-08-01 21:41:29 <liskin> And the maintainers are arrogant dickheads
2025-08-01 21:41:46 <f-a> mhhhhhhhh I see. Thanks! I will look into it
2025-08-01 21:41:59 <f-a> eh not cool (dickheads maintainers)
2025-08-01 22:02:11 <haskellbridge> <austin128> I can't even figure out how to change the refresh rate with the command line on nix os aaa
2025-08-01 22:03:22 <haskellbridge> <austin128> I was trying to not use a desktop enviroment but maybe I should just set it up with mate or something small (is xfce smaller I wonder)
2025-08-01 22:03:54 <haskellbridge> <austin128> would make all this a lot simpler
2025-08-01 22:08:29 <geekosaur> xfce is smaller, lxde / lxqt should be smaller yet
2025-08-01 22:09:17 <haskellbridge> <austin128> cool xfce is what I'm building now
2025-08-01 22:11:38 <haskellbridge> <austin128> I quite like how I can sortof replicate my system with the nix config makes all this tweaking a lot easier really
2025-08-01 22:12:54 <haskellbridge> <austin128> hooray it works great for setting the refresh rate
2025-08-01 22:13:16 <haskellbridge> <austin128> and it looks identical minus the old screen tearing nice
2025-08-01 22:15:55 <haskellbridge> <austin128> hmm do I still need picom with xfce or is a compositor included
2025-08-01 22:18:46 <haskellbridge> <austin128> ah I still need picom
2025-08-01 22:19:31 <geekosaur> I think only Gnome and KDE come with compositors, and you lose KDE's if you use xmonad as window manager instead. (You can't replace Gnome's; you can only use its utilities.)
2025-08-01 22:20:17 <geekosaur> likewise with Mate if you replace marco with xmonad you lose compoositing and will need picom to get it back
2025-08-01 22:21:02 <haskellbridge> <austin128> huh interesting
2025-08-01 22:21:26 <geekosaur> (I don't think marco has compositing actually built in, it just runs an external one for you. Which I'm not sure)
2025-08-01 22:21:33 <geekosaur> *which one
2025-08-01 22:23:27 <haskellbridge> <austin128> well this is working pretty nice now I'm really liking xmonad even if I have to configure it with this arcane haskell language (I'm I think a decent programmer and this haskell stuff is crazy)
2025-08-01 22:24:01 <geekosaur> it'll take some getting used to if you're used to OO languages; functional programming is quite different
2025-08-01 22:24:40 <haskellbridge> <austin128> well I'm mostly just used to C and C++ I guess (and a little bit of Go, python, JS, typescript)
2025-08-01 22:25:44 <haskellbridge> <austin128> and I try to avoid OO junk which might make me even further from understanding functional programming
2025-08-01 22:26:17 <haskellbridge> <austin128> seems like an interesting concept though
2025-08-01 22:27:05 <geekosaur> OO won't help with FP at all; in some ways they're opposites
2025-08-01 22:27:49 <geekosaur> even Haskell's typeclasses, which look vaguely like OO at first blush, are very differemt and work in ways that OO programmers are likely to consider "backwards"
2025-08-01 22:28:15 <haskellbridge> <austin128> interesting
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