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2020-09-22 17:31:07 <geekosaur> hm. I think ircbrowse used to keep track of #ghc as well
2020-09-22 17:31:24 <geekosaur> (also the error message for an unknown channel is kinda unfortunate)
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2020-09-22 17:33:31 <geekosaur> maerwald, I'd doubt it re escapes; it's tricky at best
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2020-09-22 17:33:54 <maerwald> brick deals with it correctly, but I can't use brick to just print to screen
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2020-09-22 17:34:16 <maerwald> table-layout has too many bugs
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2020-09-22 17:34:51 <geekosaur> although there are cheaty ways if you stick to a subset of escapes
2020-09-22 17:35:29 <sm[m]> hledger deals with it somehow (using tabular and helpers in Hledger.Utils.String or so)
2020-09-22 17:35:47 <maerwald> sm[m]: please make it a library...
2020-09-22 17:36:12 <sm[m]> I can't afford it
2020-09-22 17:36:27 <maerwald> why... how much funding you need
2020-09-22 17:36:40 <sm[m]> those are two issues, right.. dealing with wide unicode characters, and dealing with ansi escapes ?
2020-09-22 17:37:01 <maerwald> yeah, I don't know which one affects me and I don't really want to know
2020-09-22 17:37:18 <sm[m]> hehe
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2020-09-22 17:38:11 <sm[m]> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/hledger-lib-1.19.1/docs/Hledger-Utils-String.html#v:stripAnsi removes ansi, probably this exists in some lib too
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2020-09-22 17:38:44 <monochrom> Necessity is the mother of yak shaving. :)
2020-09-22 17:39:09 <sm[m]> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/hledger-lib-1.19.1/docs/Hledger-Utils-String.html#v:strWidth calculates width, accounting for wide chars and ignoring ansi codes
2020-09-22 17:39:49 <maerwald> it's like... you want to drink a coffee and you end up flying to Africa, buying a plantation, growing coffee beans, figuring out logistics and how to ship your crap. Then 20 years later you get to drink the damn coffee.
2020-09-22 17:40:45 <maerwald> sm[m]: interesting
2020-09-22 17:40:54 <monochrom> I think that's how coffee company empires were built.
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2020-09-22 17:41:21 <sm[m]> see also https://hackage.haskell.org/package/hledger-lib-1.19.1/docs/Hledger-Utils-Text.html
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2020-09-22 17:42:27 <maerwald> monochrom: I know right... it's always the little things where you think "this should just take a minute" and then it derails your life
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2020-09-22 17:43:19 <monochrom> I wouldn't call it "derail" if the side effect is you become a tycoon of something and get rich.
2020-09-22 17:43:42 <maerwald> you're just trying to manipulate me into fixing this
2020-09-22 17:43:46 <geekosaur> but I'm still waiting for my <redacted> coffee!
2020-09-22 17:43:47 <maerwald> that won't work!
2020-09-22 17:43:49 <monochrom> :)
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2020-09-22 17:44:50 <sm[m]> <gazing into space> hmm, if only someone had time to extract my utils into a library...
2020-09-22 17:45:31 <monochrom> I have Dyson in mind. The vacuum cleaner Dyson. He was very dissatisfied by the vacuum cleaners before his, so he did the yak shaving of making his own (fortunately, he also had the know-how to). As a side effect, he's a tycoon of this business now, and goes on to sell hair dryers in addition.
2020-09-22 17:46:30 <maerwald> imagine a multi-functional vacuum cleaner, which also works as a hair dryer
2020-09-22 17:46:51 <maerwald> just be sure to press the right button
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2020-09-22 17:47:19 <maerwald> (and a leaf blower)
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2020-09-22 17:48:26 <maerwald> why do discussions about ansi terminal always end up with vacuum cleaners? Because it sucks!
2020-09-22 17:48:35 <monochrom> hahaha
2020-09-22 17:48:51 <monochrom> And leaf blowers? Because it blows!
2020-09-22 17:49:13 <maerwald> sm[m]: please rescue us
2020-09-22 17:49:36 <maerwald> you have the know-how... just need to become tycoon now
2020-09-22 17:49:58 <sm[m]> urgh it's not so easy
2020-09-22 17:50:19 <maerwald> you're a good sales man
2020-09-22 17:50:31 maerwald increases the offer
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2020-09-22 17:52:22 <maerwald> how do you build a table now?
2020-09-22 17:52:32 <sm[m]> maerwald: I just saw your https://github.com/muesli4/table-layout/issues/8 screenshot.. like the commenter said, that's just being caused by the colour codes, yes ? is the bug in table-layout then ?
2020-09-22 17:52:46 <maerwald> where else would the bug be
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2020-09-22 17:55:49 <maerwald> I think I'll just implement this myself... doing a table isn't that hard
2020-09-22 17:56:04 <maerwald> only when you want to support all sorts of weird configurations
2020-09-22 17:56:09 <sm[m]> I use those utils + tabular. It shouldn't be that hard to add a similar fix in table-layout though.
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2020-09-22 17:58:17 <maerwald> sm[m]: can it do normal line by line output without table frames and delimiters?
2020-09-22 17:58:45 <sm[m]> tabular.. I don't think so..
2020-09-22 17:58:57 <sm[m]> I have munged its output when I wanted that
2020-09-22 17:59:11 <sm[m]> oh I could be wrong
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2020-09-22 18:00:14 <tomsmeding> maerwald: in that screenshot in that issue, what bytes does ghcup write to the terminal?
2020-09-22 18:00:30 <sm[m]> oh nice, tabular is maintained now, by bgamari
2020-09-22 18:00:41 <tomsmeding> because that looks suspiciously like it's trying to align with tabs where ghcup thinks tabs are width 4, and your terminal emulator thinks they're width 8
2020-09-22 18:00:42 <tomsmeding> :p
2020-09-22 18:00:44 <bgamari> indeed; it's a nice package
2020-09-22 18:00:54 <sm[m]> thanks bgamari !
2020-09-22 18:00:58 <tomsmeding> or... maybe not, since the columns are 9 characters apart
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2020-09-22 18:01:20 <maerwald> tomsmeding: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/pretty-terminal-0.1.0.0/docs/src/System-Console-Pretty.html#Color
2020-09-22 18:01:44 <tomsmeding> I was asking in particular about what characters make up the blank space between the columns :p
2020-09-22 18:01:52 <tomsmeding> I know ansi color codes
2020-09-22 18:02:04 <maerwald> it's probably ...space?
2020-09-22 18:02:25 <geekosaur> the alternative being tabs, which is what tomsmeding was asking
2020-09-22 18:02:38 <tomsmeding> or manual positioning using ansi cursor movement codes
2020-09-22 18:02:48 <dead10cc> is there any document like "how haskellers program in x language" of from haskell to x language?
2020-09-22 18:03:21 <sm[m]> yes, a few
2020-09-22 18:04:04 <tomsmeding> maerwald: a way to get the actual stuff that a program is writing to the terminal is running it in `script(1)`
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