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2020-09-20 22:06:12 <opticblast> ah, makes sense
2020-09-20 22:06:41 <edwardk> now, back in the day it used to be that do would guide inference to figure out that the type there was the application of some m to some a, but we got them to stop doing that a looong time ago
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2020-09-20 22:12:08 <hyiltiz> edwardk: thx! BlockArguments seems to really clean up the verbose notation
2020-09-20 22:12:23 <hyiltiz> and I am sure it works not just work HSpec as well
2020-09-20 22:12:33 <hyiltiz> Reminds me of Ruby's blocks
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2020-09-20 22:14:45 <edwardk> i use it more and more these days mostly because when some library messily needs to take a argument that will be very long right before some other empty list argument or something i can break things up by lines and then just use the do to self delimit _that_ argument, without having to figure out how to put the closing paren, or get all lispy with closing parens dangling on the far right of my screen
2020-09-20 22:15:27 hackage termbox-banana 0.3.0 - reactive-banana + termbox https://hackage.haskell.org/package/termbox-banana-0.3.0 (mitchellwrosen)
2020-09-20 22:15:44 <yushyin> 6
2020-09-20 22:15:50 <yushyin> ups, sorry
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2020-09-20 22:17:55 <edwardk> it amazes me that nobody has written an ncurses variant that knows how many lines worth of text it has scrolled in and gives you control over just that portion of the screen space, so it doesn't have to flip to the alt screen and works well for repls.
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2020-09-20 22:18:31 <edwardk> everything that works like this is some bespoke readline like monstrosity
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2020-09-20 22:29:56 <dolio> I think block arguments are a good idea (mostly), but characterising two extra characters as 'verbose' seems a little silly.
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2020-09-20 22:33:23 <edwardk> i mean i grumble about the extra : in :: all the time
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2020-09-20 22:33:40 <edwardk> so who am i to begrudge someone a complaint about twice as many characters
2020-09-20 22:34:46 <yushyin> unfortunate hysterical reasons with the : vs. :: matter
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2020-09-20 22:35:44 <Rembane> We need a Haskell dialect where the : and :: are swapped.
2020-09-20 22:35:55 <koz_> Rembane: So, Idris? :P
2020-09-20 22:36:48 <edwardk> then the laziness gets ya
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2020-09-20 22:40:06 <Rembane> koz_: Yeah, why not? :)
2020-09-20 22:40:21 <dolio> I don't think the extra typing hurts as much as being different from the settled notation.
2020-09-20 22:40:29 <yushyin> Rembane: https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/118
2020-09-20 22:41:07 ski . o O ( ⌜∷⌝ )
2020-09-20 22:41:20 <Axman6> Rembane: DAML?
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2020-09-20 22:43:50 <Rembane> yushyin: Wow. Nice.
2020-09-20 22:44:08 <Rembane> Axman6: Dots Are More LOL?
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2020-09-20 22:47:43 <koz_> Rembane: Dots Are More Leet.
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2020-09-20 22:47:56 <dolio> Regardless, it's never going to be worth changing in its own right.
2020-09-20 22:48:46 <Rembane> koz_: Of course! I'm way too tired to get that on the first try.
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2020-09-20 22:54:39 <Axman6> @google DAML
2020-09-20 22:54:40 <lambdabot> No Result Found.
2020-09-20 22:54:45 <Axman6> uwot
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2020-09-20 22:55:10 <MarcelineVQ> don't all mutts leak?
2020-09-20 22:55:55 <Axman6> https://daml.com - a dialect of Haskell for smart contracts, its compiler GHC with some desugaring on the front end (including : <-> ::, ples a lot of other nice extensions which make using the language day to day really nice)
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2020-09-20 22:56:52 <koz_> MarcelineVQ: Don't All Marsupials Lie?
2020-09-20 22:57:17 <MarcelineVQ> Driven Antelopes Must Leap
2020-09-20 22:57:30 <Guest39453> uh?
2020-09-20 22:57:42 <Axman6> this is the secret code, you are now authenticated
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2020-09-20 22:59:11 <Guest39453> @help
2020-09-20 22:59:12 <lambdabot> help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands
2020-09-20 22:59:26 <Axman6> plus*
2020-09-20 22:59:29 ski looks at Guest39453
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2020-09-20 23:00:01 <Guest39453> just seeing if lambdabot is real
2020-09-20 23:00:49 <koz_> Lambdabot is indeed a figment of your imagination.
2020-09-20 23:00:53 <Axman6> are bits real?
2020-09-20 23:00:56 <MarcelineVQ> how can lambdabot be real if our toes aren't real
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2020-09-20 23:03:06 <Axman6> deep
2020-09-20 23:03:17 <Axman6> but not like learning, like the ocean
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2020-09-20 23:06:15 <orion> tomsmeding: Is a type familiy the same as a type synonym?: https://github.com/acid-state/acid-state/blob/bf1fa2466e749f91d2e3152ced15331f062e8d10/src/Data/Acid/Common.hs#L54
2020-09-20 23:06:58 <Axman6> no
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2020-09-20 23:17:50 <orion> Oh, tomsmeding was talking about MethodState.

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