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2021-05-19 18:07:45 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
2021-05-19 18:07:55 <Heffalump> edwardk: you reckon Libera is the natural destination? It's unclear to me why people didn't just head to OFTC (which came out of the last Freenode wars...)
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2021-05-19 18:08:23 <geekosaur> becuase the freenode opers left en masse and set up libera
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2021-05-19 18:09:59 <Rembane> What happened to Freenode? Is there a write-up of it?
2021-05-19 18:10:21 <mjrosenb> mniip posted a link earlier.
2021-05-19 18:10:37 <geekosaur> https://kline.sh/
2021-05-19 18:10:38 <edwardk> Heffalump: the fact that we know all the ops and will continue to enjoy the superpower of having folks like mniip and glguy right in the channel with us when the botspam inevitably comes goes a _LONG_ way with me from a personal pain perspective
2021-05-19 18:10:40 <slack1256> There is also the discussion on the haskell's reddit.
2021-05-19 18:10:45 <styledash> abandon ship!
2021-05-19 18:11:05 <Heffalump> edwardk: fair enough, though it's a shame we now have a third network
2021-05-19 18:11:18 <styledash> tfw freenode gets thanos snapped
2021-05-19 18:11:50 <mjrosenb> irssi handles multiple servers decently well (that isn't to say there aren't headaches)
2021-05-19 18:11:56 <edwardk> Heffalump: I always get sad when these things fragment.
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2021-05-19 18:13:04 <edwardk> The real thing is we just don't have the huge pile of relationships at oftc. if this blew up on a longer timescale rather than literally overnight? i'd probably have spent a lot more time shopping around there for my own dev efforts
2021-05-19 18:13:24 <geekosaur> yeh :/
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2021-05-19 18:14:29 <Heffalump> is there any chance of the two joining up?
2021-05-19 18:14:44 <jrp> @lyxia    fmap f p = AnyContT $ fmap f (unAnyContT p)  worked (compiled) compiled fine!  Thanks
2021-05-19 18:14:44 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
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2021-05-19 18:15:29 <edwardk> i'm moving #haskell-lens to go wherever i can talk to glguy though. he's done a monstrous pile of work on it, and continuing to develop that in a place where he might not feel terribly safe, given rasengan seems to want to try to treat the leaked resignation letter as "slander" and lawyer up? seems like i'd be a shitty friend.
2021-05-19 18:15:32 <jrp> @lyxia   fmap f p = AnyContT $ fmap f (unAnyContT p)    worked (compiled) fine, thanks!  No I have some more errors...
2021-05-19 18:15:33 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
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2021-05-19 18:16:17 <jrp> @lyxia "  fmap f p = AnyContT $ fmap f (unAnyContT p)"  worked fine.  Thanks.  Now I have some more errors
2021-05-19 18:16:17 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
2021-05-19 18:16:39 <lyxia> jrp: (you don't need to add @ before a nick) what errors
2021-05-19 18:17:14 <edwardk> Heffalump: i don't actually know what if any bad blood there is between this last round of ircops here at freenode (now libera) and the oftc folks
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2021-05-19 18:17:37 <jrp> I'll add them to the paste (more of the same)
2021-05-19 18:19:00 <jrp> added to   https://paste.tomsmeding.com/WS04IGSZ
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2021-05-19 18:19:25 <lyxia> jrp: Well a general approach is if you're using . and $, to not use them and write plain applications with parentheses
2021-05-19 18:20:10 <jrp> OK.  Thanks.  I'll see if I can figure it out.
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2021-05-19 18:22:14 <altern> dminuoso, are you here? would you be able to help with another thing that I encountered while trying to embed gitlib code into a larger program? https://paste.tomsmeding.com/0SJOfuXk
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2021-05-19 18:31:40 <Gurkenglas> Should there be a bot crossposting messages between this channel and that one?
2021-05-19 18:33:08 <[exa]> it might be useful but people can as well connect to both channels
2021-05-19 18:33:41 <[exa]> s/channels/servers/
2021-05-19 18:34:00 <Gurkenglas> they might not notice the happenings.
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2021-05-19 18:35:33 <[exa]> I guess topic will eventually get updated, etc
2021-05-19 18:36:01 <[exa]> like, the whole thing happened (*looks at the clock*) 7 hours ago?
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2021-05-19 18:36:54 <geekosaur> it's not yet clear that the whole community will move, so far it's been individual ops and users and no official "we're moving" has been declared as such
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2021-05-19 18:37:19 <geekosaur> personally I'm in favor of moving but I'm only one op
2021-05-19 18:37:38 <geekosaur> and not the most active
2021-05-19 18:38:10 <[exa]> altern: you might need to supply a MonadMask instance for InputT (if that's your typeclass)
2021-05-19 18:38:30 <[exa]> altern: (or add some lifting work I guess, but I'm not familiar with the whole thing)
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2021-05-19 18:39:08 <[exa]> geekosaur: given the speed the people are moving compared to the amount of announcement that's been there, I guess we'll eventually all move
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2021-05-19 18:39:41 <altern> exa: I think I need to apply some transformers to openRepository call
2021-05-19 18:39:47 <[exa]> there's some open issues (afaik, the missing matrix connection likely blocks a lot of people)
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2021-05-19 18:40:01 <altern> exa: it does not make sense to implement MonadMask for InputT
2021-05-19 18:40:08 <[exa]> altern: what's the type of openRepository?
2021-05-19 18:40:41 <altern> exa: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/gitlib-3.1.3/docs/Git-Types.html#t:RepositoryFactory
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2021-05-19 18:42:15 <altern> exa: btw, I have MS type declared like this: type MS = ReaderT SearchFunc (StateT ProgramState IO)
2021-05-19 18:43:05 <[exa]> that's weird, the first argument should be RepositoryOptions so no idea why it's asking for MonadMask
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2021-05-19 18:44:43 <[exa]> ah noes sorry, misread the whole thing :D
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2021-05-19 18:47:41 <[exa]> altern: what's the type of the function around? (ie. what's the monad in there?) I guess something later in/around the function requires MonadMask
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2021-05-19 18:48:17 <altern> exa: parseInput :: String -> InputT MS ()
2021-05-19 18:49:34 <[exa]> hm weird, no idea. Maybe if you could paste a bit of the code around

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