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2020-09-18 23:12:19 <DekuDekuplex> However, for some reason, two other pull requests since then have responses, but not mine. What's going on?
2020-09-18 23:12:52 <ski> perhaps there's also some mailing list that you could try
2020-09-18 23:13:38 <frdg`> nice thank you.
2020-09-18 23:13:49 <DekuDekuplex> Isn't there someone here, or someone I could write to in e-mail, who can update that list?
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2020-09-18 23:14:36 <DekuDekuplex> There used to be a HaskellWiki page that I could update, but for some reason, somehow that page was moved to GitHub, which I can't update.
2020-09-18 23:14:47 <ski> there might be, but i have no clue who that would be
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2020-09-18 23:16:14 <ski> you could also try asking at another time, when there's more people around ..
2020-09-18 23:16:53 <DekuDekuplex> That sounds like a good idea. What time is it over there now? I'm writing from Japan; it's 8:16 AM here now.
2020-09-18 23:17:25 <frdg`> its a different time everywhere
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2020-09-18 23:18:15 <DekuDekuplex> When is a good time to ask about adding a community to https://www.haskell.org/community/ here?
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2020-09-18 23:22:31 <ski> in Europe and Africa, it's after midnight. in the Americas, it's afternoon, or possibly evening
2020-09-18 23:22:35 <DekuDekuplex> What's really strange about the list of pull requests for https://www.haskell.org/community/ is that there are only 3 open requests, and there have been responses to the 2 other pull requests, but not mine.
2020-09-18 23:22:39 <sm[m]> DekuDekuplex: I guess activity is highest around 1700 UTC or so
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2020-09-18 23:23:01 <DekuDekuplex> 1700 UTC. Okay.
2020-09-18 23:23:40 <sm[m]> you could send a Ping to your PR, possibly tagging the names of repo owner / PR mergers
2020-09-18 23:23:48 <DekuDekuplex> Okay. That would be 2 AM local time here in Japan.
2020-09-18 23:24:05 <DekuDekuplex> Since I'm a night owl, that would fit my schedule.
2020-09-18 23:24:43 <DekuDekuplex> All right, I'll try to ask again here at 2 AM or so sometime in the next few days.
2020-09-18 23:25:15 <DekuDekuplex> I just hope that my request isn't being deliberately ignored.
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2020-09-18 23:26:10 <DekuDekuplex> Back when I tried to create my original community back on Google+, some folks asked me to delete it to merge the users into the other Google+ Haskell community, but I wanted to create one specifically for beginners.
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2020-09-18 23:26:54 <DekuDekuplex> However, Google scuttled Google+ last April, and that causes both communities to disappear.
2020-09-18 23:27:00 <sm[m]> eg @TikhonJelvis
2020-09-18 23:27:01 <DekuDekuplex> causes -> caused
2020-09-18 23:27:43 <DekuDekuplex> Therefore, I re-created mine on TheTundra (then "pashPost"), and submitted a pull request to have it listed at https://www.haskell.org/community/.
2020-09-18 23:28:07 <DekuDekuplex> However, nobody seemed to pay any attention to that pull request, and that list still has not been updated.
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2020-09-18 23:28:43 <DekuDekuplex> That makes it more difficult to attract Haskellites to my beginners-oriented Haskell community.
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2020-09-18 23:30:18 <DekuDekuplex> I did advertise it on Haskell-Cafe, Haskell-Beginners, and reddit.
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2020-09-18 23:31:23 <DekuDekuplex> There isn't anything wrong with adding a new community to https://www.haskell.org/community/, is there?
2020-09-18 23:31:23 <sm[m]> DekuDekuplex: it's not deliberate, people are just busy and not actively checking all repos. Send an inquiry to the pr, so they'll get a new email notification
2020-09-18 23:31:36 <DekuDekuplex> That's good to hear.
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2020-09-18 23:32:30 <DekuDekuplex> I was afraid that someone from the old Haskell community back on Google+ who had wanted me to delete my Haskell-Beginners Google+ community might have some resentment for my not deleting my community, and not want me to advertise it.
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2020-09-18 23:34:02 <sm[m]> too early to assume malice, incompetence is more likely :)
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2020-09-18 23:34:42 <DekuDekuplex> I used to be an undergraduate in one of Paul Hudak's formal semantics courses back in circa 1993, and used to audit one of his classes back in college in Haskell.
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2020-09-18 23:34:56 <sm[m]> generally the next step with an ignored pr is to follow up with a few more comments, perhaps tagging specific maintainer names
2020-09-18 23:35:07 <DekuDekuplex> He used to give great lectures on Haskell and functional programming.
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2020-09-18 23:35:29 <sm[m]> Nice! I bet
2020-09-18 23:35:38 <DekuDekuplex> Unfortunately, Hudak passed away a few years ago.
2020-09-18 23:35:48 <DekuDekuplex> That was most unfortunate.
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2020-09-18 23:36:15 <sm[m]> I have his book
2020-09-18 23:36:45 <DekuDekuplex> Actually, so do it. It's the one on multimedia programming in Haskell.
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2020-09-18 23:36:50 <DekuDekuplex> it -> I
2020-09-18 23:37:01 <DekuDekuplex> School of Expression.
2020-09-18 23:37:12 <DekuDekuplex> Yes, the Haskell School of Expression.
2020-09-18 23:37:57 <DekuDekuplex> He used to play in a jazz band back in New Haven. I actually once attended one of his performances.
2020-09-18 23:39:15 <DekuDekuplex> Hudak was especially enthusiastic about functional programming, and about using the original functional style of writing programs, as opposed to the monadic style.
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2020-09-18 23:40:12 <sm[m]> Interesting
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2020-09-18 23:41:34 <DekuDekuplex> One of Hudak's interesting posts on Haskell-Cafe was "a regressive view of support for imperative programming in Haskell" (see https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2007-August/030178.html).
2020-09-18 23:41:55 <DekuDekuplex> He didn't like the do-notation.
2020-09-18 23:42:31 <DekuDekuplex> Instead, he wanted to use the
2020-09-18 23:42:32 <DekuDekuplex> cmd1 >>= \x->
2020-09-18 23:42:32 <DekuDekuplex> cmd2 >>= \y->
2020-09-18 23:42:32 <DekuDekuplex> ...
2020-09-18 23:42:32 <DekuDekuplex> return e
2020-09-18 23:42:43 <DekuDekuplex> return e
2020-09-18 23:42:48 <DekuDekuplex> notation.
2020-09-18 23:43:06 <DekuDekuplex> (Please ignore the last "return e" expression.)
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2020-09-18 23:44:44 <DekuDekuplex> Somebody responded to my pull request! Apparently, it has some broken link problem or other. Let me check now....
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2020-09-18 23:46:47 <DekuDekuplex> Ah, I see. The original URL for my community was changed by TheTundra. Here is the new one: https://thetundra.com/interests/tech/groups/haskell-the-haskell-beginners-community
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2020-09-18 23:47:10 <DekuDekuplex> Let me add a comment about that to my pull request....
2020-09-18 23:48:25 <DekuDekuplex> Comment added.
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2020-09-18 23:52:00 <DekuDekuplex> Okay; I have just additionally submitted an updated pull request with the updated URL.
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