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2020-09-21 09:26:39 <phadej> maerwald: specifically, I'd ask you to not add that to ghcup
2020-09-21 09:26:44 <phadej> to not confuse shit out of users
2020-09-21 09:27:00 <maerwald> what's confusing about it?
2020-09-21 09:27:32 <phadej> if there would be an bug report "GHC-9.0.1-alpha1 regresses ..."
2020-09-21 09:27:34 <maerwald> phadej: also, ben uploaded that and signed it with his key
2020-09-21 09:27:44 <cheater> hi
2020-09-21 09:28:03 <cheater> is vty still the best thing for creating simple curses style UIs or is there something else you would suggest
2020-09-21 09:28:15 <merijn> vty is low level
2020-09-21 09:28:24 <merijn> For something higher level, probably you want brick
2020-09-21 09:28:27 → acidjnk_new2 joins (~acidjnk@p200300d0c73658819d57354728142a5b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
2020-09-21 09:28:53 <merijn> cheater: vty deals with terminal emulation, brick deals with "using vty to draw widgets and stuff"
2020-09-21 09:29:17 <cheater> i want to create a very simple text editor
2020-09-21 09:29:25 <cheater> vim style
2020-09-21 09:29:43 <[exa]> you really want brick
2020-09-21 09:29:50 × jedws quits (~jedws@121.209.139.222) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2020-09-21 09:29:58 <merijn> Prepare to be surprised how comlex text editing is :p
2020-09-21 09:30:08 <maerwald> merijn: yeah, I looked into yi... whew
2020-09-21 09:30:28 <cheater> all it'll do is move lines up and down. that's all.
2020-09-21 09:30:35 <merijn> Was it Atom that took like 5 years before it could open files ? 5 MB
2020-09-21 09:30:36 <cheater> maybe edit them and add new ones or remove some.
2020-09-21 09:30:52 <merijn> cheater: Yeah...that's harder than you think :p
2020-09-21 09:30:52 <cheater> file size limited to 100k.
2020-09-21 09:31:01 <cheater> merijn: oookay
2020-09-21 09:31:16 → carlomagno1 joins (~cararell@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com)
2020-09-21 09:31:17 <maerwald> 100k is a very precise unit
2020-09-21 09:31:21 <cheater> brick says "This package deprecates vty-ui." ahh i've been using vty-ui
2020-09-21 09:31:22 <merijn> I have a 30 page paper on "data structure for text editing" :p
2020-09-21 09:31:28 <cheater> wow can y'all stop lol
2020-09-21 09:31:40 <merijn> cheater: yeah, brick is the successor of vty-ui
2020-09-21 09:31:40 <[exa]> cheater: isn't that motivating? :]
2020-09-21 09:31:44 <maerwald> we're trying to encourage you
2020-09-21 09:31:49 <cheater> no, it's boring
2020-09-21 09:31:54 <cheater> i have enough problems as it is
2020-09-21 09:31:56 <maerwald> it's so hard, you must do it
2020-09-21 09:32:10 <Cheery> there was a library in haskell for rendering text
2020-09-21 09:32:13 <tomsmeding> cheater: I've written a terminal text editor in c++ without using any terminal library at all
2020-09-21 09:32:14 <boxscape> wait... Div and Mod seem to work, even though Gcd and Lcm don't
2020-09-21 09:32:14 <maerwald> (isn't that what motivates haskellers?)
2020-09-21 09:32:22 <tomsmeding> if I can do that you can do it with the niceties that haskell gives you
2020-09-21 09:32:24 <cheater> tomsmeding: nice
2020-09-21 09:32:34 → mirrorbird joins (~psutcliff@2a00:801:44a:a00b:20c3:c64:eb15:73a2)
2020-09-21 09:32:42 <cheater> yeah i'm just writing a small manual decompiling helper
2020-09-21 09:32:50 <tomsmeding> (before you actually go and look at that c++ code beware it's ugly and bad)
2020-09-21 09:32:55 <cheater> like, be able to move lines around without violating semantics
2020-09-21 09:32:57 <cheater> that's all really
2020-09-21 09:32:57 × carlomagno quits (~cararell@inet-hqmc02-o.oracle.com) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
2020-09-21 09:32:59 <boxscape> oh but that's because I'm using Div and Mod from a different package, never mind
2020-09-21 09:33:04 <[exa]> cheater: o nice, decompiling what precisely?
2020-09-21 09:33:06 <tomsmeding> boxscape: :D
2020-09-21 09:33:06 <boxscape> (base)
2020-09-21 09:33:13 <cheater> shader assembly
2020-09-21 09:33:28 <tomsmeding> boxscape: perhaps their implementation in base can suggest how to implement Gcd in constraints
2020-09-21 09:33:33 <boxscape> yeah, good point
2020-09-21 09:33:46 <boxscape> wait
2020-09-21 09:33:48 <boxscape> they're built in
2020-09-21 09:33:51 <[exa]> cheater: very cool
2020-09-21 09:33:53 <cheater> i decompiled it by hand already but i introduced a bug and it's going to be impossible to track down, so i'm gonna do this now
2020-09-21 09:34:03 <cheater> i commuted some lines that i shouldn't have
2020-09-21 09:34:04 <cheater> i think
2020-09-21 09:34:07 <merijn> ah, rats
2020-09-21 09:34:14 <tomsmeding> cheater: https://xkcd.com/1205/
2020-09-21 09:34:18 <merijn> I can't find a copy of the PDF i was talking about now
2020-09-21 09:34:22 <cheater> i'm not clicking any xkcd links
2020-09-21 09:34:56 <tomsmeding> merijn: pity
2020-09-21 09:36:24 <tomsmeding> merijn: it's not this one by any chance? https://www.cs.unm.edu/~crowley/papers/sds.pdf
2020-09-21 09:36:43 <merijn> Ooh, looks like it
2020-09-21 09:36:49 <merijn> cheater: ^^ that one :)
2020-09-21 09:37:07 <gnumonik> Hello. I'm trying to generate parsers for records automatically using TH. Have a function that gives me a 'Q (Parser a)', but I can't figure out how to turn that into an exp so it's unusable. Is there some way to do that or is it impossible?
2020-09-21 09:37:14 <gnumonik> Am new to TH
2020-09-21 09:37:31 <merijn> gnumonik: You need to unquote it via $()
2020-09-21 09:37:45 <cheater> merijn: what is it?
2020-09-21 09:38:05 <merijn> If "foo :: Q (Parser a)" then 'bar $(foo)' is "splice the AST of 'foo' in the code here"
2020-09-21 09:38:18 <cheater> oh yea no idc i'll just put everything in a list
2020-09-21 09:38:41 → ces joins (~ces@52d3ce3c.dynamic-ip.k-net.dk)
2020-09-21 09:38:52 <cheater> just so you understand where i'm at
2020-09-21 09:39:45 <merijn> hmm, I forget how to specify ghc-options for only local packages in cabal.project (i.e. as opposed to for all transitive dependencies)
2020-09-21 09:40:37 <gnumonik> I've tried splicing it but it doesn't work. I think it's because I have a Q Parser and not a Q exp.
2020-09-21 09:40:43 → ixlun joins (~matthew@213.205.241.81)
2020-09-21 09:41:13 <cheater> does Vty work on windows btw?
2020-09-21 09:41:16 <cheater> it works, right?
2020-09-21 09:41:38 <merijn> gnumonik: oh, wait, yeah
2020-09-21 09:41:45 <cheater> hmm i'm not seeing any mention of windows
2020-09-21 09:41:55 <merijn> gnumonik: Can you pastebin/gist the code?
2020-09-21 09:42:04 → ph88 joins (~ph88@2a02:8109:9e40:2704:b503:e755:2c19:955c)
2020-09-21 09:42:13 <merijn> cheater: It supports windows for users who have/use a proper terminal emulator
2020-09-21 09:42:19 <merijn> cheater: So..."maybe"
2020-09-21 09:42:21 <cheater> how do i do that
2020-09-21 09:42:25 <cheater> is powershell proper
2020-09-21 09:42:30 <merijn> No clue
2020-09-21 09:42:58 <merijn> That's a messy swamp of complicated questions and ridiculously archaic technology your asking questions about :p
2020-09-21 09:42:59 → sagax joins (~sagax_nb@213.138.71.146)
2020-09-21 09:44:06 <gnumonik> It's pretty long and I need a sec to unbreak it, I was trying something and I ran out of undo space in VSCode
2020-09-21 09:44:18 <cheater> hmm i need to get git on this machine as well
2020-09-21 09:44:23 <gnumonik> But yeah. It just seems like there's no way to get the Parser into an Exp :-(
2020-09-21 09:44:34 <cheater> what's the least painful way to have git on windows? sorry for OT
2020-09-21 09:45:12 <mirrorbird> installing linux probably
2020-09-21 09:45:17 <[exa]> cheater: the linux subsystem kinda works, msysgit/tortoisegit also work, but the least painful way is likely to...yeah ^^
2020-09-21 09:45:30 <cheater> mirrorbird: no
2020-09-21 09:46:12 <mirrorbird> how do you know?
2020-09-21 09:46:36 <merijn> gitbash
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