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2021-05-13 18:06:24 <xenon-> if I use getTimeZone to fetch timezone, and use it to convert LocalTime from the past to UTCTime, I won't necessarily get correct results, will I? for example, if daylight saving time is on today, but wasn't at the time of the old LocalTime
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2021-05-13 18:07:58 <xenon-> getCurrentTimeZone*
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2021-05-13 18:18:01 <geekosaur> correct, you'd need the timezone that matched the time
2021-05-13 18:18:19 <geekosaur> I'm tempted to point you to "falsehoods programmers believe about time"
2021-05-13 18:19:21 <xenon-> is this the solution? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/tz-0.1.3.5
2021-05-13 18:19:58 <xenon-> timeZoneForUTCTime :: TZ -> UTCTime -> TimeZone "Returns the TimeZone for the TZ at the given UTCTime."
2021-05-13 18:19:59 <xenon-> seems to be
2021-05-13 18:20:54 <geekosaur> I think that will have problems across timezone changes?
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2021-05-13 18:22:36 <xenon-> why?
2021-05-13 18:22:59 <xenon-> you mean for future times, if daylight saving time rules change for a given location?
2021-05-13 18:23:39 <geekosaur> your UTCTime if converted for the wrong timezone to begin with will be ~1h (usually) off if it's crossing a time change boundary
2021-05-13 18:24:20 <geekosaur> I guess you can blindly hope nobody ever gives you a time around 0200 or whenever the timezone does its time changes
2021-05-13 18:25:22 <xenon-> ah I see. 02:00 may not exist
2021-05-13 18:25:29 <xenon-> or it may exist twice
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2021-05-13 18:32:35 <xenon-> is that what you meant, or?
2021-05-13 18:32:49 <geekosaur> mostly, yes
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2021-05-13 18:33:20 <geekosaur> you can't tell if 02:35 is the first or second one, in particular, during that change
2021-05-13 18:33:27 <xenon-> yes
2021-05-13 18:33:37 <geekosaur> it's all fairly tricky and possibly impossible to get right
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2021-05-13 18:38:36 <xenon-> it isn't perfect, but it is still a big improvement over naive getCurrentTimeZone used with localTimeToUTC
2021-05-13 18:42:03 <xenon-> ah interesting, this library also comes with localTimeToUTCFull :: TZ -> LocalTime -> LocalToUTCResult
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2021-05-13 18:43:12 <xenon-> data LocalToUTCResult = LTUNone { ... } | LTUUnique { ... } | LTUAmbiguous { ... }
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2021-05-13 18:46:29 <xenon-> LTUAmbiguous has two UTCTime and two TimeZone fields
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