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| 2021-02-04 06:47:30 | <psibi[m]> | Liskni_si: When I get some time, I'm planning to use cnx: https://github.com/mjkillough/cnx and check how it compares to xmobar. |
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| 2021-02-04 11:02:05 | <Liskni_si> | Solid: the instances PR adds a dependency that I vaguely remember was missing from one of the LTS versions we intended to support |
| 2021-02-04 11:02:20 | <Liskni_si> | so I'd really like to somehow deal with the CI before that |
| 2021-02-04 11:02:56 | <Liskni_si> | I'm thinking maybe if I just push something to master then peti won't get an e-mail and won't interfere |
| 2021-02-04 11:03:09 | <Liskni_si> | yes, it really is that desperate. |
| 2021-02-04 11:03:14 | <Liskni_si> | byorgey: ^ |
| 2021-02-04 11:03:38 | <Solid> | ah I see |
| 2021-02-04 11:03:40 | <Solid> | fair point |
| 2021-02-04 11:05:02 | <Liskni_si> | his last reason for revert was that we weren't testing the generatemanpage thing |
| 2021-02-04 11:05:19 | <Liskni_si> | so why does his .github/workflows/haskell-ci.yaml not test it? |
| 2021-02-04 11:05:29 | <Liskni_si> | this is just so fucked up. |
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| 2021-02-04 14:47:25 | <Solid> | oh great, I wanted to change ezconfig's internals a bit to provide an alternative `mkKeymap', but all of the parsers are exposed |
| 2021-02-04 14:47:28 | <Solid> | sigh |
| 2021-02-04 14:56:41 | <Liskni_si> | we could use a benevolent dictator who decides where compatibility must be kept and where not, and who's respected :-) |
| 2021-02-04 14:57:14 | <Solid> | :) |
| 2021-02-04 14:57:15 | <Liskni_si> | on the other hand, many existing users say that xmonad just works for them and they don't really need it to evolve any further |
| 2021-02-04 14:57:44 | <Liskni_si> | software maintenance is hard |
| 2021-02-04 14:57:45 | <Solid> | yes it'd be sort of a shame to break all of this |
| 2021-02-04 14:58:14 | <Solid> | but now for every parsing function f I have to add f' and fWorker for this to work |
| 2021-02-04 14:58:23 | <Solid> | I'm not sure it's worth it anymore ._. |
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| 2021-02-04 15:00:37 | <Liskni_si> | maybe we're overthinking this; how many users of the exposed parts of ezconfig are there? how many will actually upgrade and be inconvenienced by it? |
| 2021-02-04 15:01:28 | <Liskni_si> | in the past when I had a busy day job, I'd either not upgrade xmonad at all, or upgrade and then revert the conflicting bits and just go on with what was more important in my life |
| 2021-02-04 15:01:40 | <mc47> | tbh, I think most users just stop updating xmonad once they have a stable config |
| 2021-02-04 15:01:51 | <mc47> | maybe check it once in a while to see if something exciting happens |
| 2021-02-04 15:02:57 | <Liskni_si> | I actually still do this with xmobar: I could create a PR that adds a switch for features I don't like, but if all the other people do like them, it's just less work for everybody if I carry a revert in my fork |
| 2021-02-04 15:03:35 | <Liskni_si> | mc47: maybe, but there are probably also users who just use it from the distro |
| 2021-02-04 15:03:43 | <Liskni_si> | we have no idea how many of them, though |
| 2021-02-04 15:03:51 | <Liskni_si> | configs may break for these people |
| 2021-02-04 15:04:04 | <Solid> | I would imagine most people who are "satisfied with the way things are" will just use their distros package |
| 2021-02-04 15:04:22 | <Liskni_si> | which is a good reminder that the sooner we deal with making deprecation warnings visible, the faster we can move in future |
| 2021-02-04 15:04:43 | <Solid> | ah yes, that issue still looms behind the horizon |
| 2021-02-04 15:04:51 | <mc47> | Liskni_si fair point |
| 2021-02-04 15:05:38 | <mc47> | then maybe it doesn't make sense to deprecate things in the next release, and deprecate them after the release |
| 2021-02-04 15:05:42 | <Liskni_si> | (although after several Wayland vs X11 related discussions hitting HN front page this week, I'm somewhat sceptical about the future in general.) |
| 2021-02-04 15:06:44 | <Liskni_si> | (as in, shouldn't I be spending my time figuring out wayland and what we can do about this, instead of obsessing over whether xmonad core is tested against lts 12) |
| 2021-02-04 15:07:23 | <mc47> | I mean, it would be fun making a spinoff of xmonad with wayland :-) (coming from me who still has very little idea on X-programming and the xmonad core :D) |
| 2021-02-04 15:07:54 | <Solid> | I don't think it would be very fun, seeing how a wayland compositor has to do so much :D |
| 2021-02-04 15:07:55 | <Liskni_si> | I'm seriously afraid of it though |
| 2021-02-04 15:08:27 | <mc47> | really? I have no idea what I'm talking about btw hahah |
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