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2021-04-28 05:19:40 <heatwave> That's the first place most of us would go to
2021-04-28 05:20:14 <Solid> Which official guides are you referring to?
2021-04-28 05:20:54 <heatwave> https://xmonad.org/documentation.html
2021-04-28 05:22:30 <Solid> ah
2021-04-28 05:22:45 <Solid> yes it's planned to add the tutorial there once it's merged
2021-04-28 05:22:53 <Solid> but I'm wondering how many people visit the website anyways
2021-04-28 05:23:12 <heatwave> oh really? I would expect almost every new user? :p
2021-04-28 05:24:07 <Solid> I think people don't like to read nowadays :>
2021-04-28 05:24:30 <Solid> at least that's the feeling I get from answering the same two questions on reddit all the time
2021-04-28 05:27:20 <heatwave> okay I do see that. I feel a strong documentation would help us point more people to it, while we could add some community made videos/reddit posts
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2021-04-28 05:32:28 <Solid> that's a nice way to tell us to get off our asses and release 0.17 already :P
2021-04-28 05:33:36 <Solid> though I also think that people don't read other reddit posts at all
2021-04-28 05:34:08 <Solid> as evidenced by the same question being asked multiple times even though one is already solved on the same page
2021-04-28 05:34:26 <Solid> and no-one knowing of the existence of the tutorial until I shill it in _their_ thread
2021-04-28 05:34:31 <Solid> even though it's in a sticky
2021-04-28 05:35:02 <Solid> maybe I'm being too pessimistic
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2021-04-28 08:37:53 <Liskni_si> Seems to me that these problems are related to our "user acquisition channels".
2021-04-28 08:39:01 <Liskni_si> If most new users are bored kids who found out about xmonad from YouTube, no wonder they don't know how to find and use the documentation.
2021-04-28 08:40:24 <Liskni_si> Especially if said documentation is actually hard to find outside of reddit.
2021-04-28 08:41:10 <Liskni_si> Once everything is where it's meant to be, we can start saying RTFM a not feel bad about it. :-)
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2021-04-28 08:41:30 <Liskni_si> *and
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2021-04-28 08:41:51 <Solid> :)
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2021-04-28 08:58:06 <oogeek> Solid: Liskni_si: Is it possible to also include the link to tutorial in the man page. I know that when xmonad and xmonad-contrib are packaged by people from different distro, it would be nice to include it and put it at the top.
2021-04-28 09:00:20 <oogeek> Also I found out that the desktop file from Arch Linux can be useful for your tutorial's Display Manager part.
2021-04-28 09:00:29 <oogeek> I have put it in a comment.
2021-04-28 09:00:42 <oogeek> can be -> might be
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