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| 2021-01-20 09:32:26 | <kmicu> | I thought you portray some drama worthy critical stuff but those are orthogonal build instructions. You can always revert if it breaks something aka there is a good reason. |
| 2021-01-20 09:35:00 | <kmicu> | (In bigger libre projects there’s no discussions about such changes. If they are indeed problematic we revert and discuss which is less overhead than discussing every PR.) |
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| 2021-01-20 10:22:51 | <Liskni_si> | kmicu: the (potentially) drama-worthy bits are elsewhere, in https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/260 and https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/261 where he refuses to discuss this with the other maintainers and forces his approach instead |
| 2021-01-20 10:24:22 | <Liskni_si> | those yesterday's PRs to xmonad(-contrib) are just a continuation of that, a change in a direction which was already being discussed as possibly problematic and unwelcome by the rest |
| 2021-01-20 10:24:45 | <Liskni_si> | "being discussed" … :-/ |
| 2021-01-20 10:31:45 | <Liskni_si> | psibi[m]: you seem to be able to communicate with peti without getting frustrated, any tips what I'm doing wrong? |
| 2021-01-20 10:43:02 | <psibi[m]> | Liskni_si: I guess I just don't show my frustration. :-) Anyway, I will be sending a PR enabling lts builds in some time. |
| 2021-01-20 10:44:53 | <Liskni_si> | psibi[m]: that PR will be just a revert of https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/261, no? |
| 2021-01-20 10:46:05 | <Liskni_si> | and his latest reply (https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/446#issuecomment-763513308) … I could really use an arbiter here |
| 2021-01-20 10:46:21 | <Liskni_si> | he keeps suggesting I'm the one who refuses to communicate |
| 2021-01-20 10:46:46 | <Liskni_si> | and I've said it multiple times that I suspect that might very well be true do to being a bit on the spectrum |
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| 2021-01-20 10:47:17 | <Liskni_si> | so if anyone can point out what exactly I'm doing wrong, that would be highly appreciated |
| 2021-01-20 10:48:13 | <Liskni_si> | but I don't think it's a good idea to continue being involved in a project (xmonad core) where the only other active maintainer speaks a completely different language :-/ |
| 2021-01-20 10:50:26 | <psibi[m]> | Yeah, that's right. |
| 2021-01-20 10:51:46 | <Liskni_si> | ("the only other active maintainer" is wrong, you're also active, I take that back) |
| 2021-01-20 10:52:40 | <psibi[m]> | I wouldn't call myself active and I would call peti also active. |
| 2021-01-20 10:53:03 | <psibi[m]> | I wouldn't call myself active and I wouldn't call peti also active. |
| 2021-01-20 10:54:01 | <psibi[m]> | In fact, we both just make sure there is a release happening! I think you, geeokosaur and others contributing to the core. |
| 2021-01-20 10:54:42 | <psibi[m]> | Liskni_si: Anyway, I would like your review here: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/266 |
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| 2021-01-20 11:04:36 | <psibi[m]> | Liskni_si: If you can resolve the MR conflicts in #260, I'm planning to merge it now since there is no other oppositions from others. WDYT ? |
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| 2021-01-20 11:19:31 | TheTsar | is now known as Tsar |
| 2021-01-20 11:20:11 | <Tsar> | Quick question: is there a xmonad-user channel, or should I just ask my lowly, noncontributor questions here? :) |
| 2021-01-20 11:24:17 | <Liskni_si> | Tsar: it's a rare occasion that we're discussing maintainer disputes here, don't worry about it and feel free to ask user questions here |
| 2021-01-20 11:28:42 | <Liskni_si> | psibi[m]: merged #266 (was waiting for the CI and went afk in the meantime) |
| 2021-01-20 11:29:25 | <Liskni_si> | psibi[m]: re #260, I was hoping to get feedback from distro (Debian) folks first, and I was going to send a reminder e-mail today |
| 2021-01-20 11:29:47 | <Liskni_si> | psibi[m]: but if you feel it's a good idea to merge it anyway, I can definitely resolve the conflicts |
| 2021-01-20 11:32:24 | <Tsar> | I'm looking for a layout that will put tiles side by side on horizontal screens (w > h) and one on top of the other on vertical ones (w =< h) - do you know one that behaves like that? |
| 2021-01-20 11:43:15 | <Liskni_si> | Tsar: I was sure there is one but I can't find it :-( |
| 2021-01-20 11:43:52 | <psibi[m]> | Liskni_si: Yes, please resolve the conflicts. I want to merge it as I believe it will hugely simplify things. |
| 2021-01-20 11:45:05 | <Liskni_si> | Tsar: I definitely think it'd be useful to have something like that, though :-) |
| 2021-01-20 11:45:45 | <Tsar> | Liskni_si: I'm pretty sure there is one as well, since it seems like a common use case, looked through the xmonad-contrib layouts but couldn't find it though. Now that I think about it maybe it's common enough to get included in the base package |
| 2021-01-20 11:45:48 | <Liskni_si> | psibi[m]: okay, I'll do it as soon as I deal with the fallout from apt full-upgrade :-) |
| 2021-01-20 11:45:53 | <Tsar> | I will check there |
| 2021-01-20 11:46:33 | <Solid> | there is X.L.PerScreen |
| 2021-01-20 11:47:08 | <Solid> | though it doesn't *quite* do what you want, in that it only takes the width of the screen and then does things |
| 2021-01-20 11:47:45 | <Liskni_si> | That's probably the one I was looking for! :-) |
| 2021-01-20 11:47:47 | <Solid> | but that should easily be generalizable |
| 2021-01-20 11:48:00 | <Solid> | It's a weird name |
| 2021-01-20 11:48:08 | <Tsar> | is it in the base package or the -contrib? |
| 2021-01-20 11:48:19 | <Solid> | it's in contrib |
| 2021-01-20 11:48:31 | <Tsar> | (sorry, I'm still a bit awkward moving around the docs) |
| 2021-01-20 11:49:02 | <psibi[m]> | Liskni_si: Thank you! |
| 2021-01-20 11:49:38 | <Solid> | Tsar: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-PerScreen.html |
| 2021-01-20 11:50:03 | <Liskni_si> | I wonder how safe PerScreen is, though, as it doesn't send the Hide message to the layout that is being deactivated like X.L.IfMax does. |
| 2021-01-20 11:50:11 | <Tsar> | yup, found it - and learned that hackage "search" is not package-wide :) |
| 2021-01-20 11:50:29 | <Liskni_si> | anyway, peti strikes again |
| 2021-01-20 11:50:34 | <Liskni_si> | we have a revert storm |
| 2021-01-20 11:50:35 | <Tsar> | well, there is one way for me to find out |
| 2021-01-20 11:50:42 | <Tsar> | thanks Solid |
| 2021-01-20 11:50:43 | <Liskni_si> | just what we suspected was going to happen a week ago |
| 2021-01-20 11:51:48 | <Liskni_si> | I hoped it wouldn't come to this but at this point I agree reverting the commit bit is justified :-/ |
| 2021-01-20 11:53:31 | <Solid> | Tsar: np, let us know how it goes :) |
| 2021-01-20 11:53:51 | <Solid> | It may be worth creating a module that subsumes IfMax and PerScreen |
| 2021-01-20 11:54:05 | <Solid> | "give me some sort of predicate to decide which layout to choose" |
| 2021-01-20 11:54:31 | <Liskni_si> | Yes, that would be good! |
| 2021-01-20 11:56:46 | <Solid> | I'll write it down somewhere :P |
| 2021-01-20 12:05:54 | <psibi[m]> | Liskni_si: Lol, it seems Peter has reverted my commit. |
| 2021-01-20 12:08:09 | <fizzie> | Hmm, I did what I think is a borderline reasonable DSL for my homegrown auto-XRandR XMonad thing for identifying screens -- https://github.com/fis/dot-xmonad/blob/master/zem/src/Zem/AutoRandr.hs -- wonder if that could be useful in other contexts too. Maybe it's a bit too low-level for most purposes. |
| 2021-01-20 12:09:27 | <Liskni_si> | yep |
| 2021-01-20 12:09:27 | <Liskni_si> | 20:21:49 <Liskni_si> (I'm guessing that if I push an actual revert, things are going to get ugly) |
| 2021-01-20 12:09:31 | <Liskni_si> | said this 10 days ago, still true. |
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| 2021-01-20 12:58:48 | <Tsar> | Solid: tested, worked like a charm - that was just what I needed |
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