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| 2021-01-30 07:04:38 | <Solid> | :) |
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| 2021-01-30 13:07:45 | <Liskni_si> | Solid: if Ivan doesn't reply within some time, maybe we could ping him on some taffybar IRC channel or something, it's possible he silenced github notifications or something |
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| 2021-01-30 13:30:31 | <Solid> | Liskni_si: I'm not sure how intrusive that would be; but if he actually doesn't reply in *timeframe* it might be worth a shot |
| 2021-01-30 13:34:08 | <Liskni_si> | oh, intrusivity, that sounds like the usual pains of dealing with people :-( |
| 2021-01-30 13:34:52 | <Liskni_si> | if someone messaged me about one of my open source projects through linkedin, I'd probably be quite excited, yet there are many who would consider that almost equal to stalking |
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| 2021-01-30 13:48:34 | <Solid> | hah, yeah people react quite differently to that |
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| 2021-01-30 13:57:26 | geekosaur | wouldn't handle that well, for one |
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| 2021-01-30 14:10:37 | <Liskni_si> | good news btw, I pinged dons thru twitter and got added as a moderator on /r/xmonad |
| 2021-01-30 14:10:45 | <Liskni_si> | we have an active mod on reddit now \o/ |
| 2021-01-30 14:10:56 | <geekosaur> | yay |
| 2021-01-30 14:11:07 | <Liskni_si> | I'll never have time for a day job ever again :-D |
| 2021-01-30 14:11:20 | <Solid> | =) |
| 2021-01-30 14:11:40 | <Solid> | that's good to hear, even though I didn't even know we had a reddit :) |
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| 2021-01-30 14:12:19 | <Liskni_si> | I suspect there are other comm channels even I don't know about |
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| 2021-01-30 14:12:31 | <Liskni_si> | we also have a twitter but I have no idea who's behind that |
| 2021-01-30 14:13:05 | <Liskni_si> | this is one of the links that got automodded as spam: https://betweentwocommits.com/blog/xmonad-layouts-guide |
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| 2021-01-30 14:13:37 | <Liskni_si> | it'd be cool if such people contributed to the official docs |
| 2021-01-30 14:14:36 | <Solid> | oh wow, that's really cool |
| 2021-01-30 14:14:59 | <Liskni_si> | unfortunately their reddit account is deleted now |
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| 2021-01-30 14:15:28 | <Solid> | :/ |
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| 2021-01-30 14:16:59 | <psibi[m]> | That documentation looks really cool. Thanks Liskni_si for sharing it! |
| 2021-01-30 14:17:12 | <psibi[m]> | It would be nice to have that in the main website. |
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| 2021-01-30 14:17:14 | <Solid> | Their about page has some links to their personal websites/twitter |
| 2021-01-30 14:17:23 | <Solid> | may be worth reaching out that way |
| 2021-01-30 14:21:14 | <Solid> | huh that reddit is cetrainly an interesting place |
| 2021-01-30 14:21:19 | <Solid> | and more active than I'd have thought |
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| 2021-01-30 14:24:03 | <Liskni_si> | the signal to noise ratio is obviously much worse than github issues and even this irc channel, but there's the voting system that maybe helps if one doesn't consume it through rss (which I do, so I skim through everything) |
| 2021-01-30 14:24:27 | <Liskni_si> | the upside is that if a post gets ignored, nothing bad happens, whereas github issues pile up |
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| 2021-01-30 14:26:18 | <Solid> | mh I guess rubscribing via rss sounds doable |
| 2021-01-30 14:26:32 | <Solid> | s/rub/sub/ |
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| 2021-01-30 14:31:09 | <Solid> | I have a question about https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-extras/pull/30 I'm not that good with CPP and cabal magic; but wouldn't using something like MIN_VERSION or CURRENT_PACKAGE_VERSION require us to make a new release first? |
| 2021-01-30 14:32:02 | <geekosaur> | you'd have to release xmonad-contrib before xmonad-extras, yes, but this won't even matter for most people until said release |
| 2021-01-30 14:32:17 | <Liskni_si> | we could bump the release in git before the release |
| 2021-01-30 14:32:19 | <geekosaur> | and CI will work if it's using master |
| 2021-01-30 14:32:47 | <Solid> | okay I see, just checking |
| 2021-01-30 14:32:49 | <geekosaur> | assuing git has the bumped release which it probably should, arguably git version should be bumped right after a release exactly for this reason |
| 2021-01-30 14:32:55 | <Liskni_si> | in many ecosystems other than Haskell it's usual practice to bump the release immediately *after* a release |
| 2021-01-30 14:33:35 | <Liskni_si> | so that after 0.16 it's immediately bumped to 0.17a1 or 0.17~pre or something, and then the release drops the alpha suffix |
| 2021-01-30 14:33:57 | <Liskni_si> | that requires the versioning scheme to support suffixes that sort before |
| 2021-01-30 14:34:07 | <Liskni_si> | no idea if haskell versioning can do that |
| 2021-01-30 14:34:37 | <geekosaur> | this is why e.g. ghc skips versions |
| 2021-01-30 14:36:11 | <geekosaur> | not sure it's worth doing the whole ghc versioning thing, we dont change anywhere near as often as ghc master does |
| 2021-01-30 14:36:21 | <Liskni_si> | oh |
| 2021-01-30 14:36:59 | <Liskni_si> | yeah we could probably just bump the version early and tell distributors that xmonad from git is meant to be packaged in a way that ensures the final release sorts correctly |
| 2021-01-30 14:37:25 | <Liskni_si> | (not that distro maintainers are particularly responsive, though) |
| 2021-01-30 14:40:31 | Solid | is the de-facto maintainer on void linux, so at least he will listen :> |
| 2021-01-30 14:42:05 | <Liskni_si> | oh, didn't know that :-) |
| 2021-01-30 14:42:54 | <Solid> | it's mostly a function of no one else wanting to touch the haskell stuff at all :D |
| 2021-01-30 14:43:17 | <Liskni_si> | that makes sense :-/ |
| 2021-01-30 14:43:50 | <Liskni_si> | I've sort of given up on haskell packaging in Debian as well and only use the ghc and haskell-stack packages |
| 2021-01-30 14:44:11 | <Liskni_si> | and back when I had a Haskell day-job, I'd get even stack from github |
| 2021-01-30 14:47:21 | <Solid> | yeah it's a bit of a mess |
| 2021-01-30 14:48:26 | <Solid> | I personally only use ghc and stack as well, but bumping the ghc version of course means recompiling (and possibly) bumping every single haskell package that void packages, because we compile everything with the system's ghc |
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