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2021-01-05 10:19:04 <kmicu> Wait a minute so it works for floats but not when tiled? But there’s no window below when tiled. That’s the point of tiling. I do not follow.
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2021-01-05 12:44:54 <geekosaur> the answer being that windows that are completely covered aren't even mapped. that goes back several years
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2021-01-05 15:54:46 <al3x27> What's this with some windows that start as floats, then mod-t puts them in the right place, is it a config error on my side?
2021-01-05 15:56:20 <Solid> al3x27: (almost) no windows start as floats by default, that must be something in your manageHook
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2021-01-05 15:57:10 <al3x27> Solid: hmm, weird, it's halflife and libreoffice, i have no hooks, but maybe they are covered by something else...
2021-01-05 15:57:53 <al3x27> mod-t is the best key ever, though
2021-01-05 16:00:37 <fizzie> `isFixedSize || isTransient` windows do start as floats by default. LibreOffice at least shouldn't fall into that category though.
2021-01-05 16:01:48 <Solid> yes these are kind of rare windows
2021-01-05 16:01:53 <al3x27> fizzie: ah, halflife does, though, so that's one...
2021-01-05 16:02:06 <Solid> there's also a default manageHook for MPlayer for some reason
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2021-01-05 16:02:52 <fizzie> There used to be one for Gimp as well.
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2021-01-05 16:03:19 <Solid> yes that was removed at some point, but somehow obscure music players survived :>
2021-01-05 16:03:35 <al3x27> fizzie: gimp has grown up, and is a decent app now
2021-01-05 16:03:40 <fizzie> It's more of a video player, not a music player.
2021-01-05 16:04:21 <fizzie> (And IME it was more of a "de-facto standard" rather than "obscure".)
2021-01-05 16:05:31 <al3x27> mplayer was king for quite many years, and is still the lightest, all 'round player (mpv is nicer, though)
2021-01-05 16:06:37 <Solid> well I stand corrected then; I'm clearly not old school enough for this
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2021-01-05 16:13:13 <fizzie> I may be biased from having had a Matrox card for so long. ("mplayer -vo mga" / "mplayer -vo xmga" was really the only way for video playback.)
2021-01-05 16:13:16 <fizzie> In any case, "regular" LibreOffice windows do start tiled for me, FWIW.
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2021-01-05 16:31:37 <al3x27> fizzie: having had a matrox card puts you solidly in old-school... and office now behaves as it should
2021-01-05 16:31:52 <al3x27> just the wine apps left
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2021-01-05 16:35:14 <ADG1089__> how can i theme qt apps under xmonad?
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2021-01-05 16:36:51 <al3x27> ADG1089__: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_look_for_Qt_and_GTK_applications
2021-01-05 16:38:15 <Solid> qt is sane here and they ship their own theming program
2021-01-05 16:38:20 <Solid> it's called qtconfig
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2021-01-05 16:40:44 <ADG1089__> qtconfig no longer exist in qt5
2021-01-05 16:41:12 <Solid> ...
2021-01-05 16:41:20 <Solid> s/is/was/
2021-01-05 16:41:49 <ADG1089__> I think some apps obey qt style like kdevelop but konversation does not want to
2021-01-05 16:42:59 codedmart_ is now known as codedmart
2021-01-05 16:43:20 <al3x27> ADG1089__: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Qt#Configuration_of_Qt5_apps_under_environments_other_than_KDE_Plasma
2021-01-05 16:44:25 <ADG1089__> al3x27: thanks, installing qt5ct, hoping it works
2021-01-05 16:44:29 <al3x27> qt5ct is the new qtconfig
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