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| 2021-02-17 07:30:20 | <Solid> | I hvae to say I like the _look_ of the xmonad website quite a bit |
| 2021-02-17 07:30:35 | <Solid> | the information on it just needs to be updated |
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| 2021-02-17 10:21:31 | <Liskni_si> | any ideas how to get my github sponsors out there without all the other people who did a lot of hard work feeling I'm exploiting them? |
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| 2021-02-17 11:00:02 | <Solid> | mh good question |
| 2021-02-17 11:00:35 | <Solid> | I suppose some sort of "donating" heading where we explain that the xmonad project doesn't take any donations, but if one wants to one can donate to individual contributors? |
| 2021-02-17 11:11:19 | <mc47> | sounds reasonable |
| 2021-02-17 11:12:30 | <Liskni_si> | yeah, the technical side is easy, I can also just add myself to .github/FUNDING.yaml |
| 2021-02-17 11:13:13 | <Liskni_si> | the real problem is me being afraid of someone like peti reverting it immediately and unleashing an even bigger amount of hatred towards me |
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| 2021-02-17 11:14:08 | <Liskni_si> | (yeah, it's the "depressed about being held hostage by inactive senior maintainers" time again) |
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| 2021-02-17 11:18:12 | <Solid> | I doubt that'll happen |
| 2021-02-17 11:18:31 | <Solid> | as long as you don't sneak in a build change into it ;) |
| 2021-02-17 11:20:56 | <Liskni_si> | okay maybe opening a PR asking other core ppls to add their sponsor links might work |
| 2021-02-17 11:21:57 | <Liskni_si> | except now we have a financial incentive to become core and a financial incentive not to dillute it by adding more people |
| 2021-02-17 11:22:01 | <Liskni_si> | god I hate this world. |
| 2021-02-17 11:22:41 | <Liskni_si> | (or maybe we don't cause nobody will donate anything anyway) |
| 2021-02-17 11:25:04 | <Solid> | hint: it's going to be the latter |
| 2021-02-17 11:25:46 | <Liskni_si> | yeah, I should probably just start a youtube channel |
| 2021-02-17 11:26:00 | <Liskni_si> | (about writing a wayland xmonad) |
| 2021-02-17 11:28:15 | <Solid> | hah |
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| 2021-02-17 11:29:16 | <Solid> | I'd watch it :) |
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| 2021-02-17 11:32:27 | <Liskni_si> | unfortunately I'm not the kind of person who can work while being watched/recorded, and I don't have time to create a performance :-/ |
| 2021-02-17 11:34:54 | <Solid> | then again, maybe people will donate |
| 2021-02-17 11:35:05 | <Solid> | I'm always surprised how many people actually use xmonad |
| 2021-02-17 11:35:53 | <Solid> | Of the nerds I know IRL, it's actually the most used window manager (none of them converted by me!) |
| 2021-02-17 11:39:33 | <mc47> | I'm not so sure whether people will donate, or at least do it regularly |
| 2021-02-17 11:40:05 | <mc47> | Personally the most I did is just a 5 or 10€ one-time donation to the things I use most |
| 2021-02-17 11:41:05 | <mc47> | but then again, I'm also a student, so not a lot of money to donate in the first place |
| 2021-02-17 11:41:17 | <Solid> | yes I probably shouldn't extrapolate from my sample size of 1 :D (I donate _way_ too much money to FOSS projects and other organisations) |
| 2021-02-17 11:41:37 | <engblom> | Solid: I think one of the strong points of xmonad is its sane default configuration and how you can customize it to almost anything. I use xmonad in all of my computers (both at home and at work). Deep inside I wish it would have been written in Common Lisp or any other higher level language because ghc + libraries wastes a lot of disk space. |
| 2021-02-17 11:42:47 | <Solid> | engblom: the solutions is to use more awesome haskell projects so the disk spaces is meaningfully spent :> |
| 2021-02-17 11:42:51 | <Solid> | s/ions/ion/ |
| 2021-02-17 11:43:47 | <mc47> | Solid, I remember there's a java hibernate open-source library that offered an interface to use more advanced postgresql types (or something similar, forgot the details) and the developer put the option to donate |
| 2021-02-17 11:44:05 | <engblom> | Solid: Sadly I have not found anything else I need Haskell for... |
| 2021-02-17 11:44:20 | <mc47> | even though it was used by a lot of companies, they barely got any money |
| 2021-02-17 11:45:54 | <Solid> | engblom: if you use xmobar you can use it as a library :D |
| 2021-02-17 11:46:17 | <Solid> | other than that kmonad, pandoc, shellcheck, hledger,... there's a lot of good stuff out there |
| 2021-02-17 11:46:22 | <engblom> | Solid: I am using xmobar... |
| 2021-02-17 11:46:26 | <mc47> | it's shitty that there's a high opportunity cost to do open-source, and not enough incentive to do it :/ the general public don't realize how important it is and don't care to donate (I'm just ranting now) |
| 2021-02-17 11:47:02 | <Solid> | engblom: there's of course also always the possibility to learn haskell and do personal projects in it; it's fun I promise |
| 2021-02-17 11:47:55 | <Solid> | mc47: I suppose so yes |
| 2021-02-17 11:49:27 | <engblom> | Solid: I have already been going through "Learn You a Haskell for Great Good!" and it is thanks to Haskell I learned to appreciate functional programming. Then came to disappointment with Cabal and how way to often dependencies are broken, which led me to Clojure. Lein (as a tool) was just so much better than Cabal and I also fell in love with the Lisp family of programming languages. |
| 2021-02-17 11:49:58 | <Solid> | I have to say I've never used cabal without stack |
| 2021-02-17 11:50:42 | mc47 | had to reinstall cabal at least 10 times when starting to learn haskell, just to add a library |
| 2021-02-17 11:51:04 | <mc47> | still have no idea how to use it |
| 2021-02-17 11:56:03 | <Solid> | everything always "just worked" for me (though I've always just used stack projects) |
| 2021-02-17 11:57:37 | <engblom> | I am looking at stack, and it looks like it would be something more similar to lein for Clojure |
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| 2021-02-17 12:48:23 | Liskni_si | doesn't donate a lot either |
| 2021-02-17 12:48:48 | <Liskni_si> | my excuse is that I come from an eastern european country, so my time is more valuable than my money :-/ |
| 2021-02-17 12:49:44 | <Liskni_si> | but it's just an excuse, I probably have more money than most Americans do, but I only have it because I don't spend it :-) |
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| 2021-02-17 13:16:28 | <Liskni_si> | (and by that I mean merely that I don't have debt) |
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| 2021-02-17 13:23:00 | <ttmx> | Heyo, I'm here once again! |
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| 2021-02-17 13:38:11 | <Solid> | hi :) |
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