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2021-01-21 15:32:42 <ttmx> Hello there, I'm trying out Xmonad, but after 5 hours, I still haven't got xmobar to display the workspace icons. Would anyone kindly give me some help? I'm new to Haskell, although I'm not new to functional programming.
2021-01-21 15:33:27 <vrs> workspace... icons?
2021-01-21 15:33:36 <vrs> I don't think xmobar does that
2021-01-21 15:34:03 <vrs> xmobar is text-only
2021-01-21 15:34:56 <vrs> there are other status bars that do icons, but you'd need people other than me to help you there
2021-01-21 15:35:08 <ttmx> I mean, you can use fontawesome for icons, but thats not the point. I don't have the workspace indicators noppes
2021-01-21 15:35:55 <ttmx> And yes, I would like to
2021-01-21 15:36:08 <ttmx> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/023b396fdc00fb7928767d0c5266ab63/image.png
2021-01-21 15:36:36 <ttmx> I'd like them on the left, like I have on i3, but I seem to need to configure a pipe to the xmobar, which I have no idea how to do.
2021-01-21 15:38:31 <fizzie> I'm not a xmobar user myself, but the impression I've gotten from the channel is to probably forget about the old-fashioned pipes + StdinReader, and instead use the XMonadLog module, which reads it from a root window _XMONAD_LOG property.
2021-01-21 15:38:49 <fizzie> (The counterpart of which is `logHook = dynamicLogString defaultPP >>= xmonadPropLog` on the XMonad configuration side.)
2021-01-21 15:39:48 <ttmx> I have no idea how to do either of those options
2021-01-21 15:42:15 <Solid> ttmx: if you're using xmonad-contrib 0.16, then the easiest way is to use `statusBar' from X.H.DynamicLog ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Hooks-DynamicLog.html )
2021-01-21 15:42:41 <Solid> yes property-based logging would be recommended, but there's no "batteries included" way of doing that in 0.16
2021-01-21 15:43:26 <ttmx> What do you mean with batteries included?
2021-01-21 15:43:33 <ttmx> And why would property based logging be preferred?
2021-01-21 15:44:18 <Solid> ttmx: batteries included in the sense that `statusBar' doesn't only spawn xmobar, but e.g. also makes xmonad aware that there is some screen area that shouldn't be covered by windows
2021-01-21 15:44:48 <Solid> ( you can use it in this way http://ix.io/2MN8 )
2021-01-21 15:45:43 <Solid> property-based logging should be preferred because when that pipe is full (i.e. not being read for some reason) xmonad will freeze
2021-01-21 15:45:48 <Solid> that's not so nice behaviour :)
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2021-01-21 15:46:56 <ttmx> Got it.
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2021-01-21 15:53:23 <ttmx> Wellll
2021-01-21 15:54:01 <ttmx> What do I set x as when I'm using xmonad =<< xmobar x ?
2021-01-21 15:56:01 <Solid> your config; this is where you define things like the modMask or any -Hook like functionality
2021-01-21 15:56:12 <Solid> if you don't have anything like that yet you can use `def' for the default config
2021-01-21 15:59:52 <ttmx> OH, my entire config??
2021-01-21 16:00:31 <ttmx> AH, its "defaults" in the usual case
2021-01-21 16:01:26 <Solid> this is usually something called myConfig or similar, it's a record of the type XConfig ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-0.15/docs/XMonad-Core.html#t:XConfig )
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2021-01-21 16:02:45 <ttmx> https://termbin.com/qpn3
2021-01-21 16:02:55 <ttmx> it would be this, right? "defaults" ?
2021-01-21 16:04:32 <Solid> indeed yes :)
2021-01-21 16:05:36 <ttmx> Thank you
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2021-01-21 16:11:47 <Solid> Liskni_si: it's funny that these things seem to always seem to be hot stuff for a few days and then there's months of silence
2021-01-21 16:12:06 <Solid> maybe someone influencial mentioned IfMax :>
2021-01-21 16:14:25 <mc47> Are the conflicts getting resovled? My inbox was flooded
2021-01-21 16:16:47 <ttmx> Welll, how do I customize the output of the pipe now?
2021-01-21 16:17:34 <Solid> ttmx: for that you need to use `statusBar' instead of `xmobar' (`xmobar' is meant to be literally zero effort)
2021-01-21 16:18:23 <Solid> if you look at the implementation `xmobar conf = statusBar "xmobar" xmobarPP toggleStrutsKey conf' it's just `statusBar' with a few defaults anyways:)
2021-01-21 16:18:47 <ttmx> Hm yes I see
2021-01-21 16:19:09 <ttmx> Also, how do I change the cursor? Whenever I hover xmobar its an X
2021-01-21 16:19:52 <Solid> you have to change the default cursor within X11 (xmonad doesn't do any of that; "minimal" and all)
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