Logs: freenode/#xmonad
| 2021-01-04 21:34:00 | <Liskni_si> | hm, I wonder why reusing disconnected outputs didn't work for me when I wrote that answer |
| 2021-01-04 21:34:15 | <T_X> | so I currently seem to be unable to have both the virtual and the real laptop monitor assigned to the same workspace |
| 2021-01-04 21:34:51 | <Liskni_si> | if you want them to be the same workspace, then you don't need a separate dummy monitor at all do you? |
| 2021-01-04 21:36:43 | <T_X> | Liskni_si: not quite. I want the virtual one to be always fixed to the same workspace. and for the physical monitor I want to be able to switch between various workspaces |
| 2021-01-04 21:37:35 | <Liskni_si> | oh |
| 2021-01-04 21:37:38 | <T_X> | so ideally that I can be sure that I'm not accidentally streaming a window I don't want to. I only want to stream from a fixed workspace |
| 2021-01-04 21:37:55 | <T_X> | but still want to be able to switch to other workspaces with my physical monitor when needed |
| 2021-01-04 21:37:56 | <Liskni_si> | I'm afraid that's not possible with X11 |
| 2021-01-04 21:38:08 | <Liskni_si> | two monitors can't display the same workspace |
| 2021-01-04 21:38:09 | <T_X> | and want to be able to swap in windows to the streaming workspace |
| 2021-01-04 21:38:37 | <T_X> | urgh, okay, so that's an X11 thing? |
| 2021-01-04 21:38:37 | <Liskni_si> | you'd need to move the "dummy" monitor to be a mirror (same offsets as primary) whenever you want both to view the same workspace |
| 2021-01-04 21:38:58 | <T_X> | hm, okay |
| 2021-01-04 21:39:02 | <Liskni_si> | yes, X11 only lets you map a window to one place |
| 2021-01-04 21:39:30 | <Liskni_si> | in Wayland there's no problem for the WM/compositor to draw a window wherever it wants and how many times it wants |
| 2021-01-04 21:39:45 | <Liskni_si> | but in X11 this can't be done without weird hacks |
| 2021-01-04 21:40:00 | <T_X> | hm, okay. is it maybe possible to create a window which always displays the content of a specific workspace? |
| 2021-01-04 21:40:32 | <Liskni_si> | not really |
| 2021-01-04 21:40:35 | <T_X> | in OBS Studio I can also stream the contents of a specific window. so that would be another workaround that would come to my mind. not sure how well that'd perform, if at all |
| 2021-01-04 21:40:39 | <geekosaur> | Liskni_si, a compositor could do it but there's no conventions for how to tell it to do so |
| 2021-01-04 21:40:50 | <Liskni_si> | geekosaur: yeah I was just about to say that |
| 2021-01-04 21:41:59 | <Liskni_si> | "in X11 this can't be done without weird hacks" is still true I think, as this would be a "weird hack" :-) |
| 2021-01-04 21:44:14 | <Liskni_si> | T_X: can you perhaps control OBS from xmonad and have it move the capture area dynamically? |
| 2021-01-04 21:45:10 | <Liskni_si> | so that when you need to view that specific workspace, it'd capture at 0, 0, and when that workspace is only visible on the dummy monitor, it'd capture at 2560, 0 |
| 2021-01-04 21:45:25 | <Liskni_si> | it's still a hack but less moving parts |
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| 2021-01-04 21:51:52 | <T_X> | Liskni_si: that might work. I have to look into it, just started looking at OBS studio yesterday :D |
| 2021-01-04 22:07:32 | <T_X> | oh, hm, maybe another simple solution for now: I could view the dedicated streaming workspace / virtual monitor via OBS itself :D |
| 2021-01-04 22:07:45 | <T_X> | it's actually quite reactive |
| 2021-01-04 22:08:52 | <T_X> | there is a bit of lag, but not much |
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| 2021-01-04 22:09:52 | <T_X> | in OBS studio I have a preview of the monitor (the virtual / hijacked HDMI one). and I can also view that perview in fullscreen in OBS studio |
| 2021-01-04 22:17:15 | <T_X> | argh, nope, mouse does not seem to work probably on the virtual monitor then... |
| 2021-01-04 22:18:54 | <T_X> | that is mouse movement works fine on the virtual monitor, viewed in OBS studio. but as soon as I click the mouse pointer seems to briefly leave the virtual monitor. weird |
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| 2021-01-05 04:16:35 | <rudentoxic> | How can I get a window to display behind other windows with transparency? I switched from xcompmgr to picom, and I'm using Full layout. |
| 2021-01-05 04:18:02 | <rudentoxic> | I just noticed, when I float a window, that it does work. maybe I should use a different layout. |
| 2021-01-05 04:28:29 | <rudentoxic> | Basically, what is it that keeps a window from being composited below another window? |
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| 2021-01-05 06:16:07 | <rudentoxic> | this channel is more unhelpful than archlinux |
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| 2021-01-05 07:20:38 | <Solid> | really living up to the name |
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