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2021-01-22 15:58:44 ttmx joins (5e3ee76f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.94.62.231.111)
2021-01-22 15:59:05 <Liskni_si> I guess until the more experienced folks that I know start dying or something, I'll still feel like that :-)
2021-01-22 15:59:32 <Solid> Hah that's totally okay, you seem like a wizard to me =)
2021-01-22 15:59:40 <ttmx> How old are you if I may ask?
2021-01-22 16:00:31 <Liskni_si> 33 I think
2021-01-22 16:01:05 <Solid> >I think
2021-01-22 16:01:10 <Solid> so I'm not the only one with that problem :D
2021-01-22 16:02:20 <Liskni_si> well once you get out of school and out of dating and, with the raging pandemic, out of meeting the extended family and, well, people in general, there's absolutely nothing that keeps that number fresh in the brain
2021-01-22 16:02:57 <ttmx> I'm currently 20
2021-01-22 16:03:06 <mc47> I get my birthday wrong sometime
2021-01-22 16:03:08 <ttmx> Covid has been messing up social life considerably.
2021-01-22 16:03:42 <ttmx> I was never one to go to parties and whatnot, but my uni friends are just so insanely fun at them that I started liking going aswell, and now I miss it.
2021-01-22 16:03:44 <ttmx> A lot.
2021-01-22 16:04:18 <Solid> Yes spending essentially my last year of uni completely online has been messing me up a bit as well
2021-01-22 16:04:44 <ttmx> I'm pretty okay regardless.
2021-01-22 16:05:15 <ttmx> My mental is really strong I think. Its really hard to bring me down.
2021-01-22 16:05:21 <Solid> Hopefully I get accepted into that phd program and I don't have to also start looking for jobs online :P
2021-01-22 16:05:32 <ttmx> But instead of being very happy like I was in uni with friends, I'm just moderately okay happy.
2021-01-22 16:05:54 <Liskni_si> Yeah the whole thing is especially unfair to uni students. Uni is only partly about the education, the real value comes from building a network and detaching from parents, and none of that really works now. :-/
2021-01-22 16:06:23 <Solid> indeed
2021-01-22 16:06:37 <ttmx> Best years of my life they said.
2021-01-22 16:06:43 <mc47> It's been rough... I've been living in 12 squared meters, working, studying, eating...
2021-01-22 16:06:51 <ttmx> I mean, first year of uni was in fact the best year of my life I'd say
2021-01-22 16:06:54 <mc47> I had so many things planned ahead for the past year
2021-01-22 16:07:08 <Solid> It's much worse for the people starting uni though
2021-01-22 16:07:11 <ttmx> But since second year I'm at home isolated.
2021-01-22 16:07:18 <Solid> at least I've already made friends that I can try to stay in touch with
2021-01-22 16:07:27 <Solid> But them? Really wouldn't want to be in that position
2021-01-22 16:07:36 <ttmx> Yep, I agree. I'm really glad it didn't start in my first year of uni.
2021-01-22 16:08:11 <Liskni_si> On the other hand if the world never gets back to normal, they'll have gotten a headstart we'll all envy them :-)
2021-01-22 16:08:15 <ttmx> I've been trying to help out freshmen as much as I can to meet other freshmen, me and some friends organize some online events and such, but its in no way a proper replacement.
2021-01-22 16:09:22 <ttmx> On less depressing news, how would I get Discord per example to always spawn in a certain workspace?
2021-01-22 16:13:49 <mc47> add something lik className =? "discord" --> doShift (workspaceAt 8) in your manage hook
2021-01-22 16:14:35 <mc47> it would change to that workspace though, not sure how you'd send it there without changing the active workspace
2021-01-22 16:15:10 <Liskni_si> (speaking of looking for jobs online, I was just about to apply (online) for unemployment benefits so I can continue having fun doing open source for another 5 months :-))
2021-01-22 16:19:14 × Rockj quits (~rockj@2001:67c:550:feed::1) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2021-01-22 16:19:43 cfricke joins (~cfricke@unaffiliated/cfricke)
2021-01-22 16:19:45 <ttmx> Oh, but I don't want to "follow" discord.
2021-01-22 16:20:15 <ttmx> I'd want something like this from i3 but in xmonadassign [instance="discord"] workspace $ws10
2021-01-22 16:20:24 <ttmx> Woops, forgot the newline
2021-01-22 16:21:24 <Solid> doShift doesn't change to that workspace
2021-01-22 16:21:33 <Solid> it just shifts the window to it
2021-01-22 16:22:28 <mc47> I thought so, but it does somehow
2021-01-22 16:24:40 <Solid> no, no it definitely doesn't :D
2021-01-22 16:24:54 <mc47> ttmx replace the "workspaceAt 8" with your workspace
2021-01-22 16:24:59 <Solid> that may be the application somehow forcing focus
2021-01-22 16:25:03 <Solid> there's an atom for that afaik
2021-01-22 16:25:11 <Solid> Liskni_si: living the life I see :)
2021-01-22 16:25:37 <Liskni_si> Solid: yeah :-)
2021-01-22 16:25:58 <mc47> Solid, so discord must be doing someting weird
2021-01-22 16:26:20 <Liskni_si> a year ago I thought let's take a month off to finish some side projects
2021-01-22 16:26:29 <Liskni_si> still not even halfway through
2021-01-22 16:26:52 <Solid> mc47: I would imagine so; I've had some troubles with electron apps stealing focus in the past (signal, in my case), but they seem to have sorted it out
2021-01-22 16:27:24 <Liskni_si> (but it's not just that there's a lot of it, it's mostly me having trouble with focus and executive function and that kind of stuff)
2021-01-22 16:28:11 <Liskni_si> I was also considering just going back to uni, but I'm not sure if it's worth it, especially now :-)
2021-01-22 16:29:07 <Solid> yeah now may not be the ideal time
2021-01-22 16:29:11 <Liskni_si> anyway, this stealing focus stuff reminds me of #396 and #399
2021-01-22 16:30:09 <Solid> in fact, it may be the ideal time to take an extended sabbatical
2021-01-22 16:31:27 <Liskni_si> not the "get a steel bicycle and ride around the planet" kind of sabbatical :-/
2021-01-22 16:32:03 <Solid> well the "let's work on awesome free software project" kind of sabbatical can be just as fun :>
2021-01-22 16:32:04 <mc47> Solid I doubt discord will do anything about it, I'll see if I can find a hack
2021-01-22 16:35:45 <Liskni_si> mc47: if it's really about stealing focus, definitely do take a look at #192, #396 and #399
2021-01-22 16:35:53 <ttmx> Yep, discord calls for focus on launch for some reason.
2021-01-22 16:36:47 <ttmx> If I disable the "focus_on_window_activation focus" on i3 then it stops dragging me to its workspace
2021-01-22 16:37:44 <Solid> oh so it really is related to #396
2021-01-22 16:37:46 <Solid> interesting
2021-01-22 16:49:40 Rockj joins (~rockj@2001:67c:550:feed::1)
2021-01-22 16:53:36 <ttmx> ALSO, random thing
2021-01-22 16:53:55 <ttmx> I seem to be getting duplicated error messages when I press my recompile and reload keybind?
2021-01-22 16:54:21 <ttmx> Also, workspaceAt is not in scope :(
2021-01-22 16:55:25 <mc47> ttmx yeah, it's a function I wrote. Just do (workspaces !! n)
2021-01-22 16:55:41 <ttmx> AH righ
2021-01-22 16:55:58 <mc47> or myWorkspaces or whatever it is
2021-01-22 16:56:02 <ttmx> epic gamer haskell array index
2021-01-22 16:56:52 <mc47> hahaha, I kinda want 0 to be mapped to myWorkspaces !! 10 and n to myWorkspaces !! (n - 1)
2021-01-22 16:57:22 <ttmx> Hmm, that doesn't seem to be detecting spotify HM
2021-01-22 16:57:35 <ttmx> OH WAIT
2021-01-22 16:57:37 <ttmx> DID I
2021-01-22 16:57:50 <ttmx> I wonder if I just got _arrays start at zero'd_
2021-01-22 16:58:02 <ttmx> No I didn't. okay good
2021-01-22 16:58:47 <ttmx> Huh, this looks correct...WM_CLASS(STRING) = "spotify", "Spotify"
2021-01-22 17:00:58 <ttmx> Huh, spotify seems to be dying with this, no idea what is happening
2021-01-22 17:01:18 <ttmx> Its really not liking existing wtf
2021-01-22 17:01:50 <ttmx> It does nothing when I click it?
2021-01-22 17:06:27 <ttmx> Right, discord seems to work though!
2021-01-22 17:07:04 <ttmx> And now to removing the border when windows are alone, how would I do that?
2021-01-22 17:07:33 <mc47> Does it change the workspace too?
2021-01-22 17:07:46 <ttmx> Discord does not change the workspace
2021-01-22 17:08:10 <ttmx> You probably have focus on windows asking for focus enabled
2021-01-22 17:08:15 <mc47> Take a look at smartBorders
2021-01-22 17:09:18 <ttmx> Right, you guys have discord. Any chance anyone feels like voice calling? I have too many questions and too little time xD
2021-01-22 17:10:52 geekosaur joins (82650c7c@130.101.12.124)
2021-01-22 17:13:06 <ttmx> Does this look good?
2021-01-22 17:13:18 <ttmx> myLayout = smartBorders(avoidStruts( tiled ||| Mirror tiled ||| Full)) It seems to work, but if feels weird to have these many parenthesis
2021-01-22 17:13:33 <ttmx> Wasn't there a way to use $ for this or something?
2021-01-22 17:13:38 <geekosaur> discord is a browser window, browsers like to grab focus
2021-01-22 17:13:38 <mc47> yes, there is
2021-01-22 17:13:52 <ttmx> Browsers only grab focus if you let them.
2021-01-22 17:14:00 <mc47> smartBorders . avoidStruts $ tiled ||| Mirror tiled ||| Full
2021-01-22 17:14:07 <ttmx> Is it this? myLayout = smartBorders $ avoidStruts( tiled ||| Mirror tiled ||| Full)
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