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2021-05-01 12:15:45 <Solid> sigh
2021-05-01 12:15:47 <oogeek> But then there need to be a function to detect the screenId, oh
2021-05-01 12:15:48 <oogeek> sigh
2021-05-01 12:15:53 <charpointer> i want either
2021-05-01 12:16:03 <Solid> oogeek: yes, like the one I posted earlier ;)
2021-05-01 12:16:05 <charpointer> A) 1-4 is on monitor 1, 5-8 on monitor 2 or
2021-05-01 12:16:15 <charpointer> B) independent workspaces for each monitor
2021-05-01 12:16:28 <charpointer> im fine w/ either but this is confusing
2021-05-01 12:16:31 <charpointer> rn
2021-05-01 12:17:11 <charpointer> if A is not possible, is B possible?
2021-05-01 12:17:34 <oogeek> charpointer: seriously, if you want to use a bar later, you may consider IndependentScreens. I thought you want to only display four workspaces on monitor 1. Filter the workspaces out is another way. Both A and B need some more code to do it.
2021-05-01 12:17:36 <Solid> sorry I'm not goint to waste any more of my time if I literally posted a solution and got ignored repeatedly when I told you to try it
2021-05-01 12:17:53 <charpointer> oogeek, how do i do independent screens then?
2021-05-01 12:18:38 <charpointer> since i want to use a bar either polybar or xmobar later on
2021-05-01 12:19:47 mc47 joins (~yecinem@89.246.239.190)
2021-05-01 12:20:10 <mc47> Is anyone here using dynamicSBs and could comment on this https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/463#issuecomment-830623727 ?
2021-05-01 12:20:26 <mc47> I've been scratching my head a lot to try and figure out what's the problem
2021-05-01 12:21:50 <oogeek> mc47: Although I don't use it, I am willing to test it out.
2021-05-01 12:24:53 <mc47[m]> I mean it would be cool to get more feedback on it
2021-05-01 12:25:10 <mc47[m]> I gotta rebase it though, gimme a few minutes
2021-05-01 12:26:58 <mc47[m]> That module enables bad posture in my case... I find myself unplugging the external monitor and laying on the bed with the laptop a lot with it, since I don't need to restart xmobar or anything, and things just work beautifully
2021-05-01 12:27:27 <mc47[m]> Except for when they don't and I need a M-q, but it's really rare
2021-05-01 12:28:38 × charpointer quits (~char@cpc160245-nrth4-2-0-cust907.8-4.cable.virginm.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
2021-05-01 12:29:09 kelnoky joins (~shao@ip1f128ba7.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
2021-05-01 12:29:28 <Solid> mh I've not felt the need for a bar on my second monitor yet
2021-05-01 12:29:35 <Solid> but maybe I'll set something up
2021-05-01 12:29:42 <Solid> getting this merged would be cool
2021-05-01 12:30:20 <mc47> my bar on the second montior is pretty small, and it helps overall with keeping track of things
2021-05-01 12:30:25 <mc47> I'll spam some screenshots
2021-05-01 12:30:36 <Solid> :D
2021-05-01 12:30:58 <Solid> btw, have you looked at https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/278/commits/7d43128753f3a9a8128346034997e4c0b456058d at all? I'd like to start squashing all the commits for the tutorial soon-ish
2021-05-01 12:31:20 <oogeek> Also, I think after May 16, I will have plenty of time to test new things out. Don't hesitate to ask me for some testing. :)
2021-05-01 12:32:02 <mc47> I skimmed it, I'll look thoroughly at it today
2021-05-01 12:32:50 charpointer joins (~char@cpc160245-nrth4-2-0-cust907.8-4.cable.virginm.net)
2021-05-01 12:32:51 <mc47[m]> it looks like this when it's active but nothing on it (the star signals whether it's active)
2021-05-01 12:32:55 mc47[m] uploaded an image: (574KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/lpcVwqEOdbaqcBPkaGlEqfpJ/image.png >
2021-05-01 12:33:22 <mc47[m]> And here, it has a window open, but it's not active
2021-05-01 12:33:25 mc47[m] uploaded an image: (108KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/qeMCkGXMZXWjRWFGefZYtvaJ/image.png >
2021-05-01 12:34:09 <charpointer> how do i implement the IndependentScreens
2021-05-01 12:34:48 × charpointer quits (~char@cpc160245-nrth4-2-0-cust907.8-4.cable.virginm.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
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2021-05-01 12:40:48 <charpointer> oogeek, this looks like what i want but its very confusing and the example doesnt work
2021-05-01 12:40:58 <charpointer> or im not sure how to get it working rather
2021-05-01 12:44:29 × charpointer quits (~char@cpc160245-nrth4-2-0-cust907.8-4.cable.virginm.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
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2021-05-01 12:47:02 <charpointer> so i managed to setup it up yay
2021-05-01 12:47:17 <charpointer> IndependentScreens is perfect
2021-05-01 12:51:40 <oogeek> :)
2021-05-01 12:52:34 <charpointer> im using the Tall template, is there a way to resize specific windows in the split?
2021-05-01 12:52:48 <charpointer> like i can do mod + alt + arrows to resize the split
2021-05-01 12:52:52 <charpointer> is that possible?
2021-05-01 12:53:00 <charpointer> or are they static only
2021-05-01 12:53:22 <mc47> you'd want to look at X.L.ResizableTile
2021-05-01 12:54:14 <charpointer> ah ok
2021-05-01 12:56:46 <oogeek> mc47: Do you have any suggestions to this: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/504 :)
2021-05-01 12:58:07 <mc47> Not really, at least not as a first glance
2021-05-01 12:58:42 <mc47> I'll try to get to it, but I'm a bit swamped at the moment... it's been a crazy, crazy couple of weeks
2021-05-01 13:00:07 <Solid> no pressure, take your time
2021-05-01 13:00:16 <oogeek> I really hope that more people would read the tutorial thoroughly after it comes out.
2021-05-01 13:00:31 <oogeek> So that many small problems can be solved immediately.
2021-05-01 13:02:08 <geekosaur> <cynic> people read tutorials? in particular, thoroughly? </cynic>
2021-05-01 13:02:14 <mc47> many people don't read
2021-05-01 13:02:26 <mc47> most of them, actually
2021-05-01 13:02:47 <mc47> but it gives RTFM rights, and that's awesome :D
2021-05-01 13:03:00 <oogeek> I learned to write haskell through a serious of erros in my code :) Still improving. And I find it more useful to just read the source code. Personally. :)
2021-05-01 13:03:07 <oogeek> errors*
2021-05-01 13:03:42 <oogeek> Well I do ready Arch Wiki thoroughly, haha.
2021-05-01 13:03:53 <mc47> yeah reading code definitely helps
2021-05-01 13:04:12 <oogeek> BTW I use Arch/ I use Arch BTW
2021-05-01 13:04:26 <mc47> and if you're learning haskell, I can't recommend hlint enough
2021-05-01 13:04:30 <Solid> I reckon people would read the tutorial if we aggressively told them to RTFM
2021-05-01 13:04:38 <Solid> but I don't think we'd want to be that abrasive
2021-05-01 13:05:54 <Liskni_si> mc47: "failed to create OS thread: Resource temporarily unavailable" looks like a GHC issue to me
2021-05-01 13:06:31 <Liskni_si> mc47: or even some system limits like the kernel applying some antiforkbomb protection or some magic like that
2021-05-01 13:07:12 <Liskni_si> mc47: I haven't managed to migrate to your DynamicBars yet, but I've been launching xmobar dynamically on rescreen for years and never saw anything like this
2021-05-01 13:08:12 <mc47> huh, maybe because of the threaded runtime or something like that?
2021-05-01 13:08:23 <oogeek> mc47: A very personal question: why do you still use a 4.x kernel with Manjaro. Sorry if this question is too personal.
2021-05-01 13:08:32 <Liskni_si> mc47: I do have the threaded runtime as well
2021-05-01 13:08:46 <oogeek> I mean if the case is exactly as Liskni_si said, maybe it is the cause?
2021-05-01 13:08:48 <Liskni_si> probably not for all those years though
2021-05-01 13:08:57 <mc47> Liskni_si these are the flags I'm setting "-threaded -rtsopts -with-rtsopts=-N -Wall"
2021-05-01 13:09:11 <Liskni_si> I don't have the -N thing
2021-05-01 13:09:18 <mc47> oogeek, phew, idk really, I just forget to update my kernel
2021-05-01 13:09:24 <geekosaur> then you're running with 1 OS thread
2021-05-01 13:09:58 <charpointer> how do i start xmobar from inside xmonad?
2021-05-01 13:10:05 <charpointer> i have my xmobarrc file
2021-05-01 13:10:34 <Liskni_si> geekosaur: yeah I probably do
2021-05-01 13:10:49 <oogeek> charpointer: Pretty easy, you define and call it within the "main" function. You can find lots of examples online. Also in the tutorial.
2021-05-01 13:10:56 <Liskni_si> I only use the threaded runtime to be able to use async to kill all xmobars in parallel
2021-05-01 13:10:58 <charpointer> could u link me to one? oogeek
2021-05-01 13:11:12 <oogeek> Let me find the link to the new tutorial, haha.
2021-05-01 13:11:13 <Liskni_si> (more like "concurrently" than in parallel)
2021-05-01 13:11:43 <charpointer> thank
2021-05-01 13:12:42 <oogeek> charpointer: please read it thoroughly: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/ffab9f63890ed57a57d6185c1280a2271d21f348/tutorial.md
2021-05-01 13:12:49 <oogeek> It is really a nice tutorial.
2021-05-01 13:12:53 <Liskni_si> so apparently I've had -threaded since 2012
2021-05-01 13:12:55 <charpointer> oki
2021-05-01 13:21:54 <mc47> Liskni_si apparently it is due to " -rtsopts -with-rtsopts=-N"
2021-05-01 13:22:00 <mc47> I found this issue https://github.com/haskell/unix/issues/62
2021-05-01 13:22:46 <geekosaur> yes, don't forkProcess with threads
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