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2021-03-03 20:03:05 <heck-to-the-gnom> Greetings unrooted
2021-03-03 20:03:14 <unrooted> oh hey man haha
2021-03-03 20:03:43 <mc47> toniz4 for starters you'd need to build them both from the source
2021-03-03 20:03:57 <unrooted> came here to ask if there are any low-hanging fruits in xmonad as the issues to solve, since it would be great to have some of the Haskell open source contributions as well
2021-03-03 20:04:00 <heck-to-the-gnom> With the (major) help of geekosaur and the general idea from liskin I finally got it working.
2021-03-03 20:04:23 <Solid> mc47: afaik xmonad scoures its lib directory even when building with the system's ghc
2021-03-03 20:04:33 <Solid> so you wouldn't need to build from source
2021-03-03 20:04:51 <Solid> you'd just need to create like `~/.xmonad/lib/Colours.hs'
2021-03-03 20:05:10 <mc47> Oh really? TIL !
2021-03-03 20:05:12 <heck-to-the-gnom> It does use the lib directory, I split my config into many files because it got so big, and lib is how I did it.
2021-03-03 20:05:30 <mc47> what about xmobar?
2021-03-03 20:05:31 <geekosaur> aslong as it's imported into your xmonad.hs instead of overriding some existing module, yes
2021-03-03 20:05:44 <Solid> xmobar I'm not sure about
2021-03-03 20:05:54 <Solid> it copied a lot of the xmonad recompilation code
2021-03-03 20:05:56 <Solid> so... maybe?
2021-03-03 20:06:03 <geekosaur> xmobar has a mode where it can use a compiled config, supposedly
2021-03-03 20:06:14 <geekosaur> \but I'm not an xmobar user so I don't know details
2021-03-03 20:07:03 <Solid> unrooted: #349 should be a pretty easy one for a start
2021-03-03 20:07:18 <Solid> just stick some CPP in the respective modules and be on your way :)
2021-03-03 20:07:24 <heck-to-the-gnom> Yeah, I've seen it around, and I've looked at one of the config files in haskell, it's almost identical, just a few more type constraints and coersions here & there
2021-03-03 20:09:18 <Solid> it definitely works with a haskell config (I use one myself), I'm just not sure if you need like a stack project for that
2021-03-03 20:09:45 <Solid> unrooted: also some modules are in need of better docs (I know, I know, that's boring :P)
2021-03-03 20:10:17 <Solid> you could probably pick up any dead pr, ping the person and if they don't respond just finish it
2021-03-03 20:10:51 <unrooted> docs will be better I guess since I'm still learning
2021-03-03 20:10:54 <unrooted> what modules?
2021-03-03 20:11:07 <mc47> XMonad.Layout.Renamed for example
2021-03-03 20:11:25 <Solid> let's ask org
2021-03-03 20:11:25 <heck-to-the-gnom> Oh, I know how that one works. At least vaguely
2021-03-03 20:11:41 <mc47> If you want, you could give https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/465 a try and tell me what you think
2021-03-03 20:11:47 <heck-to-the-gnom> I use it in my configs
2021-03-03 20:12:06 <mc47> it's a new interface that should replace XMonad.Hooks.DynamicLog, so getting more opinions on it would be nice!
2021-03-03 20:12:37 <unrooted> sure, gonna take a look, thanks! <3
2021-03-03 20:12:53 <mc47> (the comments don't need to be necessarily about the imlpementation, but the docs, how does it "feel" like to use, etc!)
2021-03-03 20:12:55 <heck-to-the-gnom> unrooted: this is a blessing: https://hoogle.haskell.org
2021-03-03 20:12:58 <mc47> awesome :)
2021-03-03 20:13:17 <Solid> unrooted: so far, I have noted down X.L.WindowNavigation, X.A.WindowNavigation, X.P.Pass, and X.L.Spacing as potentially needing improvements
2021-03-03 20:13:44 <toniz4> mc47: I think i found a better way to make the colors the same, I can pass a option to xmobar to set the bg and fg colors, that's enough for me
2021-03-03 20:14:18 <mc47> toniz4 yeah that works too, way less hassle
2021-03-03 20:14:24 <Solid> I tried to motivate people on that subreddit to contribute, but so far no one has come around :(
2021-03-03 20:15:06 <Solid> unrooted: but really just scroll through the contrib docs and if you find a module that you know something about and that you feel could use better docs just open a pr
2021-03-03 20:15:11 <Solid> I promise we're friendly :)
2021-03-03 20:15:45 heck-to-the-gnom uploaded an image: image.png (10KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/TsCLDPHzAnaoKEwVEAKnSOHR/image.png >
2021-03-03 20:16:01 <heck-to-the-gnom> mc47: that's my bar, I couldn't live without colors
2021-03-03 20:16:24 <mc47> that looks really nice!
2021-03-03 20:16:33 <heck-to-the-gnom> thx!
2021-03-03 20:17:35 <Solid> I like pretty pictures
2021-03-03 20:18:04 <mc47> Solid, I remember while writing the preliminary report that there was a call for contributions on github in 2017
2021-03-03 20:18:20 <mc47> something similar should help attract more contributors
2021-03-03 20:19:11 <Solid> oh that's a good idea
2021-03-03 20:19:21 <mc47> I can't find that issue though
2021-03-03 20:19:42 <Solid> it's still in the /topic
2021-03-03 20:20:05 <Solid> was an issue in xmonad and not -contrib
2021-03-03 20:20:25 <mc47> ah yes!
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2021-03-03 20:43:38 <unrooted> Solid thanks, gonna take a look
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2021-03-03 21:09:13 <unrooted> okie, so I'm gonna ask you guys about some things during the weekend when I'll find the time, but I'll try to do my best to contribute to xmonad since I love it :D
2021-03-03 21:12:03 <mc47> fire away :D
2021-03-03 21:19:41 <Liskni_si> I'm kind of hoping that once we get the release out, we'll get some press coverage for the announcement, which may help attract some people or something
2021-03-03 21:20:02 <Liskni_si> but then I'm struggling to review the contributions that are already there :-/
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2021-03-03 21:21:52 <mc47> Liskni_si from what I heard from other colleagues working on other projects, it's not that bad here
2021-03-03 21:22:28 <mc47> Some have been waiting for a month or more to get a review
2021-03-03 21:22:55 <mc47> And in "big" projects (like VSCode)
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2021-03-03 21:23:26 <Liskni_si> oh
2021-03-03 21:24:33 <mc47> plus, there aren't many people reviewing pull requests, so I guess it's not that bad
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2021-03-03 21:25:18 <Liskni_si> it's interesting how some of these big projects are totally swamped with issues and prs, and others are not
2021-03-03 21:25:29 <Liskni_si> compare https://github.com/microsoft/vscode and https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir
2021-03-03 21:25:34 <Liskni_si> elixir has 0 PRs!
2021-03-03 21:26:12 <Liskni_si> (last time I opened a PR there, it got merged in a couple hours)
2021-03-03 21:26:43 <mc47> that's really impressive
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2021-03-03 21:27:30 <mc47> I'm interested to hear the presentations of my colleagues to see how it's like in other projects, maybe I'll share the links of the reports here when that happens
2021-03-03 21:27:42 <Liskni_si> actually in that call for help issue in xmonad, someone suggested that we simply merge everything regardless of quality and give more contributors push rights
2021-03-03 21:28:06 <Liskni_si> and I'm unsure how that might work
2021-03-03 21:28:14 <mc47> Yeah I read through that, I don't think it's a good idea
2021-03-03 21:28:38 <mc47> I think the best way to get new contributors is to have a list of "good first issues"
2021-03-03 21:29:02 <mc47> now that I think about it, I shouldn't have pushed the javaHack PR :/
2021-03-03 21:29:07 <geekosaur> peti
2021-03-03 21:29:29 <geekosaur> that's how that one works
2021-03-03 21:29:55 <Liskni_si> :-)
2021-03-03 21:31:02 <mc47> kinda unrelated, but do you prefer your real names in the report or just your handles? Because I'm gonna need to go into some details
2021-03-03 21:32:49 <Liskni_si> I don't mind my real name
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