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| 2021-02-16 19:48:37 | <Liskni_si> | I have some inspection patches in my tree that can be used for this, but it's undocumented and work in progress |
| 2021-02-16 19:48:46 | <mc47> | that kinda sucks |
| 2021-02-16 19:49:01 | <Liskni_si> | I might use some feedback for them though :-) |
| 2021-02-16 19:49:16 | <mc47> | would someone need to traverse the "ModifiedLayout" and "Change" chain ? |
| 2021-02-16 19:49:42 | <Liskni_si> | that's only one of the hurdles one has to go through :-) |
| 2021-02-16 19:50:46 | <mc47> | "only" one... |
| 2021-02-16 19:50:50 | <Liskni_si> | https://github.com/liskin/xmonad-contrib/commit/0f97b26047923472da0406f864679690307dd2ed, https://github.com/liskin/xmonad-contrib/commit/b50ae2a4035ced6db3503956e47c21287de39427, https://github.com/liskin/xmonad-contrib/commit/30305e58a23fc200f95a034d9d966ea03818dec5 |
| 2021-02-16 19:53:22 | <mc47> | oh that looks much more complicated than from what I've imagined |
| 2021-02-16 19:54:30 | <geekosaur> | I'd ask what you do if it doesn't have a master pane (say, Tabbed). or it has two (Mastered Tall or similar) |
| 2021-02-16 19:55:13 | <geekosaur> | you can get arbitrarily complex with this stuff and there is serious question as to what you can meaningfully ask about the current layout |
| 2021-02-16 19:57:13 | <Liskni_si> | mc47: you can also send a message with IORef in it and have the layout handle the message by writing something into it |
| 2021-02-16 19:57:27 | <Liskni_si> | or just alter the layout to handle a message by putting something in extensible state |
| 2021-02-16 19:57:56 | <Liskni_si> | it's a hack but it will take quite a while before I get the inspection stuff upstream |
| 2021-02-16 19:58:03 | <Liskni_si> | (anyway brb dinner) |
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| 2021-02-16 20:04:21 | <mc47> | That was also my guess, I'll probably add something to the extensible state |
| 2021-02-16 20:05:30 | <mc47> | but... why are layouts so complicated? |
| 2021-02-16 20:09:09 | <geekosaur> | what were you expecting them to be? they're arbitrary functions, often in X (~ IO), encoded as constructor chains |
| 2021-02-16 20:10:36 | <mc47> | I haven't given it much thought, really |
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| 2021-02-16 20:20:11 | <adamik> | First time with Xmonad - is it advisable to continue with the darcs template and add to it as I see fit, or will that inevitably cause conflict? |
| 2021-02-16 20:21:21 | <adamik> | I am still wrapping my head around the syntax used, and apart from piping Xmobar and compton, I'm struggling to find how to add the new imports to myLayout. |
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| 2021-02-16 21:05:50 | Liskni_si | opened 8 pull requests in the last 2 days and should probably take a break now :-) |
| 2021-02-16 21:10:47 | <geekosaur> | hm, think I'll have to add UTF8 encoding to my config when this lands |
| 2021-02-16 21:11:00 | <geekosaur> | none of this helps with logging over dbus :) |
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| 2021-02-16 21:33:12 | <ttmx> | Hello again! Any of the devs for xmonad.org here? |
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| 2021-02-16 21:39:40 | <geekosaur> | several people with access to it are here. that doesn't mean we necessarily have any business touching it >.> |
| 2021-02-16 21:40:48 | <geekosaur> | if you have found a problem with the web site you can file an issue against the xmonad-web repo |
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| 2021-02-16 21:43:12 | <ttmx> | Its not a problem! |
| 2021-02-16 21:43:30 | <ttmx> | I'm simply curious on why you guys don't show off all the fancy setups people make with xmonad. |
| 2021-02-16 21:43:41 | <ttmx> | I've always found that weird in most wms |
| 2021-02-16 21:43:52 | <geekosaur> | there was an attempt to update the stuff on the wiki a few years ago, that stalled out |
| 2021-02-16 21:44:02 | <geekosaur> | I think there's still an issue for it |
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| 2021-02-16 21:44:32 | <ttmx> | Just hop over to r/unixporn and ask people with xmonad setups for permission :P |
| 2021-02-16 21:44:36 | <geekosaur> | the main problem is people make their setups and then drift away and we have no way to contact them afterward |
| 2021-02-16 21:45:20 | <ttmx> | Well, you might be able to get a few of them, and then just put those first in the little slideshows! xD |
| 2021-02-16 21:46:09 | <ttmx> | Place a clause in the license that says any content posted to r/unixporn is by default usable by you guys :P |
| 2021-02-16 21:47:10 | <ttmx> | Unrelated, but this is your cpu module, can I change the text displayed in "Cpu:"? |
| 2021-02-16 21:47:15 | <ttmx> | Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/888643e502c0ed754ce942319d3aff8b/image.png |
| 2021-02-16 21:48:04 | <ttmx> | Changing the website also is dependent on your objectives for xmonad ofc |
| 2021-02-16 21:49:31 | <ttmx> | If you want to "keep your userbase small and elitist" and with "No novices asking stupid questions" then a super minimalist and oldschool website is the way to go |
| 2021-02-16 21:50:34 | <ttmx> | Since not super knowledgeable people won't want to use what looks not flashy and antiquated or something |
| 2021-02-16 21:50:47 | <ttmx> | While more powerusers don't really care and know they can play around with it. |
| 2021-02-16 21:51:22 | <ttmx> | But having nice looking little setups is nice for bringing a more general audience to the cause |
| 2021-02-16 21:51:48 | <ttmx> | Completely understandable if you have already thought this out and you think I'm making pointless critique! Just tell me so hahaha |
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| 2021-02-16 21:53:06 | <ttmx> | My talks were so bad that geekosaur ragequit |
| 2021-02-16 22:00:47 | <ttmx> | Can I resize the icons inside xmobar? |
| 2021-02-16 22:01:01 | <ttmx> | Or do I have to resize them outside? |
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| 2021-02-16 22:09:31 | <ttmx> | I'm trying to fix xmb by hand :))))))))))))))) |
| 2021-02-16 22:09:58 | <Liskni_si> | I'm not sure any of us really thinks about acquiring users |
| 2021-02-16 22:10:25 | <Liskni_si> | would be nice if we could attract people who contribute meaningfully, to both documentation and code |
| 2021-02-16 22:11:34 | <Liskni_si> | but users who don't contribute and just ask questions, well, those are probably better off helping each other on reddit and so on |
| 2021-02-16 22:11:58 | <Liskni_si> | we can barely keep up with the existing flow of issues and pull requests :-/ |
| 2021-02-16 22:12:00 | <ttmx> | Totally understandable! |
| 2021-02-16 22:12:09 | <ttmx> | I have to share I'm proud of this one |
| 2021-02-16 22:12:16 | <ttmx> | Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/42c16f64564c638e5c7c32e549923743/image.png |
| 2021-02-16 22:12:31 | <ttmx> | Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/0c560c7adbdd9a3ef09694b5cba2809d/image.png |
| 2021-02-16 22:12:37 | <ttmx> | Bottom one was the original |
| 2021-02-16 22:12:42 | <Liskni_si> | (I wanted to clean up the website over Christmas and here we are in the middle of February still struggling with the same draft PRs … :-/) |
| 2021-02-16 22:12:56 | <ttmx> | WAIT Noooooooooooooooo I just messed up and have to do it again |
| 2021-02-16 22:14:39 | <ttmx> | Okay I got it again |
| 2021-02-16 22:15:02 | <ttmx> | If you give me directions I can maybe help out on the website? I do some webdev stuff |
| 2021-02-16 22:15:39 | <Liskni_si> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web |
| 2021-02-16 22:16:24 | <Liskni_si> | here are the sources and it's being deployed from the repo using github pages, so it you fork it and tell github you want it deployed somewhere, you can play with it all day long :-) |
| 2021-02-16 22:16:46 | <ttmx> | I know yep, I just have no idea what _you_ want |
| 2021-02-16 22:16:50 | <Liskni_si> | oh |
| 2021-02-16 22:16:59 | <ttmx> | Aaand how would I change the background for an icon? |
| 2021-02-16 22:19:14 | <Liskni_si> | tbh I don't really know where to start, I haven't seen the website for a while |
| 2021-02-16 22:19:23 | <ttmx> | Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/ba5d65f5d91b54ddf591591f716632d3/image.png |
| 2021-02-16 22:19:37 | <Liskni_si> | would be good to go and make sure the information there is up to date, like check links and so on |
| 2021-02-16 22:19:39 | <ttmx> | If you notice here, the icon is missing the bg on top and on the bottom |
| 2021-02-16 22:19:54 | <ttmx> | Understandable yep |
| 2021-02-16 22:20:18 | <Liskni_si> | the rss is totally broken for example and it'd be good if it was generated from the same source as the news |
| 2021-02-16 22:20:48 | <ttmx> | I have no experience with RSS :/ |
| 2021-02-16 22:20:51 | <Liskni_si> | and if someone added some more recent videos, screenshots, tutorials, and so on |
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| 2021-02-16 22:21:42 | <Liskni_si> | fixing the RSS is something I can deal with, I have that on my personal website which also uses github pages, so it'll be a copypaste sort of |
| 2021-02-16 22:22:58 | <Liskni_si> | re icon background: no idea, sorry |
| 2021-02-16 22:23:04 | <ttmx> | I just added empty space to the background icon hahaha |
| 2021-02-16 22:23:07 | <ttmx> | And it worked! |
| 2021-02-16 22:23:17 | <ttmx> | I'm editing it by hand!!! It feels really cool xD |
| 2021-02-16 22:23:40 | <ttmx> | Its such a simple format that I can edit the files by hand, how cool is that |
| 2021-02-16 22:24:05 | <Liskni_si> | you should try "bitmap" |
| 2021-02-16 22:24:23 | <Liskni_si> | (in debian it's in x11-apps) |
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