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2020-12-12 22:34:59 By_JumperX4[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/iEiAnBSFRFbGYEEYanSLfUlq/message.txt >
2020-12-12 22:38:01 <vrs> By_JumperX4[m]: try mod+t to unfloat
2020-12-12 22:38:16 <By_JumperX4[m]> nope
2020-12-12 22:38:25 <By_JumperX4[m]> doesn't work
2020-12-12 22:38:29 <vrs> ??
2020-12-12 22:38:33 <vrs> what's your config
2020-12-12 22:38:34 <By_JumperX4[m]> ima check if I remap it maybe
2020-12-12 22:39:15 By_JumperX4[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/EzwuXjtchSbBwmKGAOhQtDBY/message.txt >
2020-12-12 22:39:37 <By_JumperX4[m]> fuck just realized that on IRC you may not have markdown so it's maybe fucking huge
2020-12-12 22:41:43 <dminuoso> By_JumperX4[m]: The matrix bridge automatically moves bulk texts into snippets
2020-12-12 22:41:45 <dminuoso> 23:39:15 * | By_JumperX4[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/EzwuXjtchSbBwmKGAOhQtDBY/message.txt >
2020-12-12 22:41:47 <vrs> no it just says "sent a long message"
2020-12-12 22:41:54 <By_JumperX4[m]> noice
2020-12-12 22:42:05 <By_JumperX4[m]> I've never saw the other side x)
2020-12-12 22:42:11 <By_JumperX4[m]> never seen*
2020-12-12 22:42:45 <dminuoso> It's one of the better features of it, definitely. :)
2020-12-12 22:42:52 <By_JumperX4[m]> a big part of my config is copied without totally understanding what I'm doing
2020-12-12 22:43:38 <By_JumperX4[m]> oh and the content of `~/.xmonad/.startup.sh` is:
2020-12-12 22:43:49 By_JumperX4[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/nIYfsQxPzRnLVeyTdwtDlRZj/message.txt >
2020-12-12 22:44:06 <vrs> why not just .xinitrc/.xsession?
2020-12-12 22:44:15 <By_JumperX4[m]> idk why I started putting some &&
2020-12-12 22:44:28 <By_JumperX4[m]> I'm not using startx
2020-12-12 22:44:32 <dminuoso> By_JumperX4[m]: Curious, would I be right that you don't really know Haskell then?
2020-12-12 22:44:52 <By_JumperX4[m]> totally
2020-12-12 22:44:59 <By_JumperX4[m]> I know a bit of FPC and bash
2020-12-12 22:44:59 joznia joins (~jo@162-206-187-245.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net)
2020-12-12 22:45:03 <dminuoso> Then mind my asking, how has your xmonad experience been so far?
2020-12-12 22:45:13 <dminuoso> Is it manageable to just copy+paste bits you find?
2020-12-12 22:45:15 <By_JumperX4[m]> not that bad
2020-12-12 22:45:41 <By_JumperX4[m]> actually I try to understang as much as possible what I copy
2020-12-12 22:45:45 <vrs> I've done that for years and got by
2020-12-12 22:46:01 <joznia> hey guys, in dwm, i have a patch where the window in the master always stays where it is and windows open in the stack, but in xmonad, when i open a new window, it opens in the master. how can i get xmonad to behave the same way as dwm
2020-12-12 22:46:07 <vrs> eventually I had some more complicated stuff I wanted to implement and actually learned enough haskell to achieve it
2020-12-12 22:46:23 <dminuoso> joznia: Write an appropriate manageHook for it?
2020-12-12 22:46:54 <joznia> man i need to read up a little on haskell lol
2020-12-12 22:47:09 <Liskni_si> vrs: took me 10 years to realize that I can move most of my startupHook to .xsession :-)
2020-12-12 22:47:32 <dminuoso> joznia: Hold on
2020-12-12 22:47:37 <joznia> i put mine in .xmonad/autostart.sh and have startupHook just execute that
2020-12-12 22:47:49 <vrs> By_JumperX4[m], my experience with startx-based stuff has so far been, occasionally the env there lacks some critical variables and it can be really annoying to debug. whatever you're using, log your env variables so that you know you're not dealing with the same problem
2020-12-12 22:47:54 <Liskni_si> (and about the same to realize that having "exec startx" in .bash_profile is better than waiting for lightdm to implement root-less X)
2020-12-12 22:48:07 <vrs> (re your first problem)
2020-12-12 22:48:58 <By_JumperX4[m]> > having "exec startx" in .bash_profile
2020-12-12 22:48:58 <By_JumperX4[m]> I have to type my name and my password before to login, and that's extremely annoying x)
2020-12-12 22:49:01 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:22: error: <hint>:1:22: error: parse error on input ‘in’
2020-12-12 22:49:14 <Liskni_si> joznia: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Hooks-InsertPosition.html
2020-12-12 22:49:16 <vrs> hmm .bash_profile is not necessarily the best place for it, what if you want a regular text login shell
2020-12-12 22:49:24 <joznia> use another tty
2020-12-12 22:49:53 <Liskni_si> vrs: there's an "if" that checks tty num
2020-12-12 22:49:58 <joznia> yeah
2020-12-12 22:50:03 <vrs> Liskni_si: dirty but works
2020-12-12 22:50:20 <Liskni_si> in reality it's a bit more complicated than that: https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/home/.bash_profile
2020-12-12 22:50:28 <Liskni_si> but I used the if for a while and was quite happy
2020-12-12 22:50:42 <dminuoso> Liskni_si: ah you beat me to it.
2020-12-12 22:51:32 <vrs> joznia: I have a similar setup but on only one workspace, where webLayout = sorted [ClassName "Firefox"] golden; golden = Tall 1 (3/100) (6/10)
2020-12-12 22:51:39 <vrs> it may be a workable alternative to a managehook
2020-12-12 22:52:02 <vrs> (using http://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-SortedLayout.html)
2020-12-12 22:52:11 <joznia> alright
2020-12-12 22:52:14 <joznia> ty guys
2020-12-12 22:52:27 <vrs> but try the hook approach first, it sounds closer to what you want
2020-12-12 22:53:13 <vrs> By_JumperX4[m]: in the layout you pasted, you haven't rebound mod-t
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2020-12-12 22:53:19 <vrs> s/layout/config/
2020-12-12 22:54:05 <By_JumperX4[m]> vrs: yea I know
2020-12-12 22:54:22 <By_JumperX4[m]> but mod+t doesn't untile
2020-12-12 22:54:24 <vrs> , ("M-" ++ , withFocused $ windows . W.sink) -- flatten floating window to tiled
2020-12-12 22:54:28 <By_JumperX4[m]> unfloat*
2020-12-12 22:54:28 <vrs> this looks, uh
2020-12-12 22:55:07 <vrs> I don't think that even compiles
2020-12-12 22:55:39 <By_JumperX4[m]> may I remove that ?
2020-12-12 22:56:15 <vrs> yes
2020-12-12 22:56:23 <vrs> how did this not give you a compile error before
2020-12-12 22:56:44 <By_JumperX4[m]> I'm not sure there is no errors actually
2020-12-12 22:56:52 <By_JumperX4[m]> I start xmonad from my dm
2020-12-12 22:57:51 <vrs> mod-q should recompile and give you errors if there are any
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