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2026-03-17 11:07:57 <tomsmeding> to the person scraping ircbrowse using claudebot: please don't
2026-03-17 11:08:32 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> :(
2026-03-17 11:08:45 <tomsmeding> (they're very efficiently and quickly scraping 403s now)
2026-03-17 11:12:08 <tomsmeding> ircbrowse is not written for being scraped; soon (tm) I will rewrite or replace ircbrowse with something that just hosts static webpages or something
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2026-03-17 11:31:05 <tomsmeding> I wonder if I should tell Claude to build that, just for irony's sake
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2026-03-17 11:49:08 <mesaoptimizer> tomsmeding: have you considered using cloudflare
2026-03-17 11:49:47 <mesaoptimizer> tomsmeding: at this point, you must realize that most bad actors are unlikely to be reading this chat, and perhaps they are engaging in a vast amount of data collection
2026-03-17 11:50:06 <mesaoptimizer> but it is funny that they are scraping 403s
2026-03-17 11:51:20 <dminuoso> -1 to using cloudflare.
2026-03-17 11:52:04 <dminuoso> That said, I think "asking someone to not do something" on the internet has become a largely silly task in 2026.
2026-03-17 11:55:05 astra is now known as amish
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2026-03-17 12:07:44 <Leary> It was already silly a few decades ago.
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2026-03-17 13:05:28 <tomsmeding> fair
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2026-03-17 13:43:00 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> Yeah no cloudflare please. If you must put iocaine in from of it. It can be considered in a non-invasive mode unlike anubis, in fact thats the default for iocaine.
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2026-03-17 13:43:28 <haskellbridge> <magic_rb> My git server is protected using iocaine and you wouldnt even know if i didnt tell you https://git.redalder.org/
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2026-03-17 13:58:38 <mesaoptimizer> "Unlike measures that seek to detect and block bots, iocaine is a last-ditch defense for after they have already made it to the web site. The request looks like a human, and the server is going to have to spend some resources responding to it. There's still one attribute that separates bots from human readers, however: reading comprehension. A human presented with a page of obvious nonsense might
2026-03-17 13:58:40 <mesaoptimizer> click one or two links in confusion, but they're extremely unlikely to try to download an endless torrent of nonsense instead of wandering off to do something better with their time. A bot, on the other hand, that is merely scanning for links and archiving text for later processing, will happily continue to download nonsense until it hits some kind of limit." https://lwn.net/Articles/1056953/ how
2026-03-17 13:58:42 <mesaoptimizer> is this going to help reduce the load on his server?
2026-03-17 14:02:35 <int-e> I guess it's this: "it uses a hidden Markov model to quickly generate a random stream of words," -- emphasis on quickly; not using much CPU and not doing any IO intensive things like database queries.
2026-03-17 14:05:14 <mesaoptimizer> I see, if the bottleneck is not network requests and responses, then load can be moved away from the application itself
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