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2021-05-26 02:43:59 hughjfchen joins (~hughjfche@117.136.40.253)
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2021-05-26 02:45:54 <MorrowM> hololeap: I think there's no type variable to fill in with the type application
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2021-05-26 03:05:52 <hololeap> yeah, that's what it looks like from the first error, but the hole shows a concrete type signature
2021-05-26 03:08:04 <sm> aand.. there goes old #haskell <sniff>
2021-05-26 03:08:29 <sm> freenode staff are taking over all the troublesome channels
2021-05-26 03:08:49 <geekosaur> meaning anyone trying to move over
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2021-05-26 03:10:33 <phma> what was freenodecom doing?
2021-05-26 03:11:02 <slowButPresent> hostile takeover
2021-05-26 03:11:06 <sm> edwardk: #haskell-game, #plaintextaccounting, #ledger, and soon #hledger I'm sure. And #haskell as you noticed. :/ They're hitting lots of channels.
2021-05-26 03:11:47 <davean> I disconnected from freenode, whats happening?
2021-05-26 03:12:03 <sm> phma: it redirects the #channel to ##channel, sets the topic to "in violation of policy" and sets new ops (freenode staff) on both channels
2021-05-26 03:12:20 <sm> davean, mass channel takeover. It'll be on HN soon I expect
2021-05-26 03:12:25 <slowButPresent> #perl also had all the ops get banned and the channel closed
2021-05-26 03:12:25 <mniip> it is
2021-05-26 03:12:27 <mniip> in a way
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2021-05-26 03:12:28 <monochrom> and locking down #channel e.g. +m
2021-05-26 03:13:03 <phma> what does a channel name beginning with ## mean?
2021-05-26 03:13:05 <int-e> good-bye, freenode #haskell.
2021-05-26 03:13:13 <sm> we didn't wish for this, but it was predictable :(
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2021-05-26 03:14:19 <ddb> phma: freenode policy was that off topic channels start with ##
2021-05-26 03:14:26 <hololeap> phma: it was something like a "generic" channel, not affiliated with any project or group
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2021-05-26 03:14:51 <monochrom> https://freenode.net/kb/answer/namespaces explains # vs ##. But basically "more official" vs "less official"
2021-05-26 03:15:17 <monochrom> For example C's is ##c
2021-05-26 03:15:21 <monochrom> math's is ##math
2021-05-26 03:15:23 <int-e> the writing was on the wall
2021-05-26 03:15:44 <hololeap> I'm honestly a bit surprised by the speed of the exodus
2021-05-26 03:16:09 <hololeap> I asked a question in freenode:#haskell today and was told to come here
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2021-05-26 03:18:03 <zzz> hololeap: you made it on time
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2021-05-26 03:18:40 <talismanick> I tried "cabal install brittany" and got a linker error, saying ld is not found.
2021-05-26 03:19:01 <talismanick> It very obviously is there (in /bin/ld) and in my PATH
2021-05-26 03:19:18 <monochrom> My view is optimistic. The hostile takeover unknowningly solves our biggest problem.
2021-05-26 03:19:32 <talismanick> (this is using the default setup from ghcup)
2021-05-26 03:20:19 <hololeap> <sm> freenode staff are taking over all the troublesome channels -- This is in direct contradiction with what has been posted on freenode.net lately, but given the size/speed of the exodus, I'll trust the people here :)
2021-05-26 03:20:26 <sm> monochrom: indeed, it makes the situation clearer. Let's just hope they stop there.
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2021-05-26 03:21:33 <hololeap> talismanick: you probably don't want to use `cabal install`, but what are you trying to do?
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2021-05-26 03:22:14 <talismanick> hololeap: Install the binary globally so I have a formatter for flycheck (Emacs error-reporting package) to pick up on inside haskell-mode
2021-05-26 03:23:20 <talismanick> Not everyone has a 32 core Threadripper with 64G of RAM to recompile the formatter, language server, etc per project
2021-05-26 03:24:07 <hololeap> not sure what the last comment is about...
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2021-05-26 03:24:30 <talismanick> hololeap: What flustered me about Haskell in the past was how long it took for all the tooling to compile
2021-05-26 03:24:42 <talismanick> and then Intero locked up Emacs while compiling even more
2021-05-26 03:25:13 <hololeap> heh, I compile all of the haskell repeatedly (I'm using Gentoo) and I generally use hardware from 10+ years ago
2021-05-26 03:25:28 <talismanick> I'm using a Thinkpad X200
2021-05-26 03:25:29 <hololeap> s/the haskell/the haskell ecosystem
2021-05-26 03:26:20 <hololeap> talismanick: what distro are you on?
2021-05-26 03:26:24 <talismanick> hololeap: Void
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2021-05-26 03:27:11 <dmwit> talismanick: Perhaps with enough verbosity, cabal will tell you exactly what command it tried to execute. Might give a clue
2021-05-26 03:27:42 <dmwit> I think -v3 is full verbosity.
2021-05-26 03:27:57 <talismanick> dmwit: It did. It said it was trying to execute ld.
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2021-05-26 03:28:16 <talismanick> Specifically, it says 'gcc' failed in the phase 'Linker'
2021-05-26 03:28:27 <talismanick> But I compiled a C++ project not long ago
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2021-05-26 03:28:55 <hololeap> I wonder if it's looking specifically for /usr/bin/ld
2021-05-26 03:29:01 <dmwit> Wait, that's kind of a different error message.
2021-05-26 03:29:23 <talismanick> dmwit: It gave both. Do you want me to pastebin it?
2021-05-26 03:29:26 <dmwit> Maybe make a paste with some details?
2021-05-26 03:29:28 <dmwit> ...yeah =)
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2021-05-26 03:30:43 <talismanick> https://0x0.st/-eCh.txt
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2021-05-26 03:31:31 <talismanick> hololeap: I thought about that. It'd be a bit strange... I suppose dropping in a symlink couldn't hurt.
2021-05-26 03:31:36 <talismanick> *famous last words*
2021-05-26 03:31:50 <hololeap> talismanick: I like your name, btw. portmanteau of talismanic and Nick?
2021-05-26 03:31:57 <talismanick> hololeap: indeed :)
2021-05-26 03:32:12 <talismanick> Actually a play on my first and last name
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2021-05-26 03:33:09 <talismanick> wait, there's already a /usr/bin/ld
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2021-05-26 03:33:38 <talismanick> Oh, /bin is symlinked to /usr/bin
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