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2021-05-30 09:28:36 <superstar64> how will it break? i'm not planning on having a gc though
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2021-05-30 09:31:54 <wz1000> If you turn `ST s1 (ST s2 a)` into `ST s2 (ST s1 a)`, and `s2 < s1`, then there might be things in region s2 that reference things in region s1, but these references will be dangling if you free region s1 but not s2
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2021-05-30 09:32:42 <superstar64> right, i got that `ST s1 (ST s2 a) -> ST s2 (ST s1 a)` is illegal
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2021-05-30 09:34:07 <superstar64> wz1000, , vanilla ST doesn't break with a regions at least right?
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2021-05-30 09:34:32 <superstar64> i wonder it can help GHC optimizes ST
2021-05-30 09:34:44 <wz1000> No, ST is just IO
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2021-05-30 10:32:04 <siers> I have no threaded code, but compiling with -threaded -with-rtsopts='-N8' makes it 28% slower (32s/41s)
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2021-05-30 10:32:53 <siers> well, maybe some of the things I'm using are threaded, but I'm not sure what exactly... htop certainly shows it's using all cores
2021-05-30 10:33:43 <Rembane> siers: What's your program doing on a high level?
2021-05-30 10:33:54 <Rembane> siers: What are the dependencies?
2021-05-30 10:34:05 <koishi_> could be GC
2021-05-30 10:34:36 <siers> updating IntMaps, i/o on a mutable vector
2021-05-30 10:35:08 <koishi_> enabling threaded runtime can hurt performance if your code doesn't make active use of parallelism
2021-05-30 10:38:36 <Rembane> siers: Got it. Since it was way too long ago I experimented with parallel and concurrernt code in Haskell I think it's best to just use the fastest runtime settings, but there's probably someone else here who has a more informed opinion. :)
2021-05-30 10:39:05 <siers> I can also shaer the code, if you want, but it's 1k LOC
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2021-05-30 10:39:40 <siers> koishi_, with parallelInterleaved from parallel-io I shaved off some seconds, but I was just surprised it's not a little more
2021-05-30 10:40:17 <Rembane> siers: Check out Criterion see what is taking time. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/criterion
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2021-05-30 10:44:56 <tomsmeding> edwardk: the topic still says the matrix bridge is coming soon, but it seems to be up now (and working quite well, hearing from friends)
2021-05-30 10:45:19 <lieuwex> officially it is still "in testing" though if I'm not mistaken
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2021-05-30 10:46:21 <koishi_> siers actually you can try reducing -N
2021-05-30 10:46:53 <koishi_> My laptop has 6 cores, but -N2 always gives me best performance
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