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2021-05-30 16:30:48 <shiraeeshi> tomsmeding: ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com doesn't show freenode haskell logs and says to ask here
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2021-05-30 16:32:22 <shiraeeshi> are those logs going to be available later?
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2021-05-30 17:05:24 <maerwald> if you have a point-free definition of a function, how does -XStrict behave... will it only insert bangs for the bindings you provide or will it eta-expand first?
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2021-05-30 17:21:51 <glguy> maerwald, I'd expect and hope it didn't expand first
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2021-05-30 17:22:47 <maerwald> that makes sense, but is also kinda a pitfall
2021-05-30 17:22:48 <glguy> afaik it's just a simple random sprinkling of strictness bangs on the names in you patterns
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2021-05-30 17:23:01 <glguy> pitfall is the name of the game with -XStrict
2021-05-30 17:23:33 <maerwald> foo = \x -> bar -- will it insert for `x`?
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2021-05-30 17:24:21 <glguy> That's my reading of https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/html/users_guide/exts/strict.html?highlight=xstrict#strict-by-default-pattern-bindings
2021-05-30 17:24:35 <zebrag> Bartosz: Yes, the existence of a terminal object, of course, is what allows to consider elements inside objects, in Set. I spoke far too quickly yesterday.
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2021-05-30 17:26:05 <tomsmeding> shiraeeshi: I still have those logs, would be fairly easy to put them up again. I mainly put up that notice to see if anyone actually cared about them :)
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2021-05-30 17:38:34 <Philonous> Is it normal that changing a »data« to a »newtype« in an unopportune place sends the inliner into a frenzy, blowing the resulting core up by an order of magnitude?
2021-05-30 17:39:16 <shiraeeshi> tomsmeding: you don't plan to delete them? can you send a copy to me?
2021-05-30 17:39:50 <[exa]> Philonous: newtypes simplify strictness analysis, thus open more inlining possibilities, and in turn the inliner may overdo it a bit, yes. :]
2021-05-30 17:39:56 <shiraeeshi> I have logs from tunes.org, they take up something like 250 mbs
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2021-05-30 17:40:04 <tomsmeding> shiraeeshi: I'll put them up again until someone asks me to put them down :p
2021-05-30 17:40:12 <tomsmeding> I can also send you the plain znc logs if you wish
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2021-05-30 17:40:23 <shiraeeshi> yes please

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