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2021-08-10 22:24:04 <nij-> Hi, in my qwerty layer, I have added a key to my apl layer: https://bpa.st/YHCQ
2021-08-10 22:24:22 <nij-> It's working. But now I'm going to add another "shifted" apl layer. What would be the best practice?
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2021-08-11 05:15:30 <Solid> ?tell nij- best practice in what way? You can just add another layer
2021-08-11 05:15:30 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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2021-08-11 09:28:29 <nij-> Solid: I've read the log :)
2021-08-11 09:28:50 <nij-> Hm. For example, current I have cmps+e bound to "∊".
2021-08-11 09:29:19 <nij-> In apl, the capitol version of it is "⍷".
2021-08-11 09:29:27 <nij-> I hope to bind that to cmps+shift+e.
2021-08-11 09:31:27 <Solid> Yeah that'll probably require an extra shift layer
2021-08-11 09:32:09 <Solid> I.e. making a new layer and binding going to that one to shift on the apl layer
2021-08-11 10:09:02 <nij-> Oh, lemme try! :)
2021-08-11 11:18:46 <Tisoxin> nij-: You might be interested in https://github.com/kmonad/kmonad/issues/111
2021-08-11 11:20:19 <Tisoxin> (If you want to know about the limitations of shift layers)
2021-08-11 11:23:38 <nij-> Thanks, Tisoxin :)
2021-08-11 11:23:54 <Tisoxin> iirc the most elegant solution to the dilemma in my opinion was to use a shift for alphanumeric symbols and a seperate shift for shortcuts
2021-08-11 11:23:55 <nij-> Most of them work now. I'm looking for the key name of "^". It's not hat, it's not caret..
2021-08-11 11:24:36 <Tisoxin> probably sth like asciicircum
2021-08-11 11:25:21 <nij-> This is what I do: https://bpa.st/M2IA
2021-08-11 11:25:26 <Tisoxin> hm, doesn't seem to be the case
2021-08-11 11:25:28 <nij-> Oh! Haven't tried that. Lemme see.
2021-08-11 11:26:17 <nij-> Indeed!! You saved my day :)
2021-08-11 11:26:25 <Tisoxin> oh, lol
2021-08-11 11:26:46 <Tisoxin> though, asciicircum doesn't seem to be listed in keycode.hs
2021-08-11 11:26:51 <Tisoxin> ¯_(ツ)_/¯
2021-08-11 11:26:58 <nij-> I have added most of them in XCompose.
2021-08-11 11:27:05 <Tisoxin> ah
2021-08-11 11:27:07 <Tisoxin> yeah
2021-08-11 11:27:11 <nij-> And the last problem now is indeed ibus..
2021-08-11 11:27:14 <Solid> I was going to say I'm pretty sure for ^ we just invoke S-6
2021-08-11 11:27:14 <Tisoxin> There it has to be asciicircum
2021-08-11 11:27:27 <nij-> Some characters won't work in emacs and terminal (but tehy do in my browser..)
2021-08-11 11:29:06 <nij-> All done :)
2021-08-11 11:38:09 <nij-> Hmm.. for some reason my "accent" layer doesn't work.
2021-08-11 11:38:11 <nij-> https://bpa.st/3T4Q
2021-08-11 11:38:38 <nij-> qwerty is my default layer, in which @acc is bound to the key "wkup" (checked with evtest).
2021-08-11 11:39:01 <nij-> But pressing and tapping "wkup" doesn't invoke the acc layer.
2021-08-11 11:45:41 <nij-> Binding "wkup" to "z" in my qwerty does work - it correctly gives the input "z".
2021-08-11 11:46:12 <nij-> However, the problem arises again after I change it back to "@acc".
2021-08-11 12:17:20 <Tisoxin> have you tried binding `@acc` to another keycode?
2021-08-11 12:23:03 <nij-> Oh not yet! Lemme try.
2021-08-11 12:26:55 <nij-> Tried. Didn't work either. I've also changed acc to act, and "accent" to "accentt" just to avoid name clash. But it still doesn't work.
2021-08-11 12:33:48 <nij-> OH! I bind @acc to right_ctrl then it is working.
2021-08-11 12:33:53 <Solid> depending on your keyboard, wakeup could be special
2021-08-11 12:33:54 <nij-> Super wierd.. I wonder why.
2021-08-11 12:34:00 <Solid> at least when it's held down
2021-08-11 12:34:19 <nij-> When I bound it to left ctrl, it didn't work either. But right ctrl is fine.
2021-08-11 12:34:20 <Solid> e.g. for me (x220) it still acts as the fn key when held, regardless of what kmonad says it is
2021-08-11 12:34:36 <nij-> I think it's good to add this into the doc somewhere..
2021-08-11 12:36:30 <nij-> Oh thank god. I finally have ralt+hjkl => arrows!!!!!!
2021-08-11 12:36:52 <nij-> Goodbye, arrows ;) my right wrist won't miss you.
2021-08-11 12:37:22 <Solid> :)
2021-08-11 12:38:33 <nij-> Two days of configuration. Worths it! thank you Solid and Tisoxin :)
2021-08-11 12:38:42 <nij-> Without your help I must have given up :P
2021-08-11 12:42:27 <Solid> ah it was fun; bringing some life into this channel is good =)
2021-08-11 12:44:15 <nij-> <3
2021-08-11 12:44:32 <nij-> You won't believe how long I have been wanting this.
2021-08-11 12:44:40 <nij-> (ok not so bad.. perhaps 1.5 years)
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2021-08-11 17:06:12 <contrapunctus> nij-: you might be interested in reusing some things from my setup, namely holding Space to act as Ctrl, and tapping Shift to insert () and place the cursor between them.
2021-08-11 17:06:19 <contrapunctus> nij-: here's the blog post covering it - https://contrapunctus.tilde.team/blog/keyboard-machinations-kmonad.html
2021-08-11 17:07:22 <contrapunctus> If you prefer Gemini - gemini://tilde.team/~contrapunctus/gemlog/keyboard-machinations-kmonad.gmi
2021-08-11 17:07:55 <nij-> contrapunctus: oh yeah! thanks ! (hopefully i could have read this two days ago xD)
2021-08-11 17:08:00 <nij-> it's clearly written. thank you!
2021-08-11 17:08:35 <nij-> Mine:: hold caps => ctrl; tap caps => esc (yep im vimmer); hold esc => capslock
2021-08-11 17:09:09 <nij-> I wish I can get a keyboard whose SPACE is splitted into 5 keys!
2021-08-11 17:09:20 <nij-> Can do much more things using kmonad.
2021-08-11 17:10:29 <contrapunctus> nij-: here's the config itself - https://tildegit.org/contrapunctus/dotfiles/src/branch/production/kmonad.kbd
2021-08-11 17:11:04 <contrapunctus> « it's clearly written. thank you! » Glad to hear that ^^
2021-08-11 17:11:26 <nij-> thx ^^
2021-08-11 17:11:42 <nij-> I bind right-alt hjkl to arrows.. this is something I have been wanting for a long while
2021-08-11 17:12:10 <nij-> Gasp! New idea: to bind ralt HJKL with 10x arrows! :D :D
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