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| 2021-07-21 02:34:30 | <KittyOwO[m]> | Has there been any other attempts at something in wayland like xmonad apart from waymonad, just kinda curious because if it didn't look like a dead project I would be trying it out lol |
| 2021-07-21 02:37:35 | <geekosaur> | apparently someone forked it and did some work on it? |
| 2021-07-21 02:41:27 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/L-as/waymonad |
| 2021-07-21 02:41:36 | <geekosaur> | last updated 5 days ago |
| 2021-07-21 02:42:02 | <geekosaur> | and has its own matrix room apparently |
| 2021-07-21 02:43:59 | <KittyOwO[m]> | oh sick |
| 2021-07-21 02:44:06 | <KittyOwO[m]> | the only one I looked at wasn't getting updated |
| 2021-07-21 02:47:52 | <geekosaur> | wonder if Ongy would be willing to give up the project to L-as |
| 2021-07-21 02:53:19 | <KittyOwO[m]> | <geekosaur "wonder if Ongy would be willing "> It made me think the project was entirely dead tbh lol, is there a link to the matrix? or is it on the website I am talking to too many people at once kafjhslddfsakjhl |
| 2021-07-21 02:54:21 | <geekosaur> | https://matrix.to/#/#waymonad:matrix.org taken from the github page for the project |
| 2021-07-21 02:54:58 | <KittyOwO[m]> | ah cool I missed that, thanks uwu |
| 2021-07-21 04:41:51 | <aegon> | sigh, why cant we all stay on irc. |
| 2021-07-21 04:42:12 | <aegon> | matrix is the least worrysome of the 3 at least (slack, discord, matrix) |
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| 2021-07-21 04:47:07 | <geekosaur> | they're already on wayland, they can talk where they like :) |
| 2021-07-21 04:49:11 | <aegon> | can't tell if thats positive or negative :P maybe its time i get a matrix account |
| 2021-07-21 04:56:34 | <KittyOwO[m]> | Eh, I don't really like wayland for the cultish reasons some people do, I mostly just don't like to fight Xorg on weird things like screentearing or whatever sometimes lol, I know that type of thing usually has a fairly easy solution but eh lol worth a shot to try out. |
| 2021-07-21 04:57:24 | <KittyOwO[m]> | aegon: I don't really like matrix that much either, someone needs to make a good client for XMPP or one of the million toy project protocols, and one with a sane default package of extensions for the average user. |
| 2021-07-21 04:58:36 | <geekosaur> | https://xkcd.com/927/ |
| 2021-07-21 04:59:09 | <KittyOwO[m]> | lol, that is a classic. |
| 2021-07-21 05:00:31 | <KittyOwO[m]> | Mostly why I have been mostly using Matrix, it just has people and is FOSS. I just wish that all these chat protocols didn't use the DNS system and that matrix would get taken in by the community rather than the sketchy weird ass devs who currently work with it. |
| 2021-07-21 05:01:07 | <KittyOwO[m]> | Or that XMPP would see actual use via people making actually good clients with good extensions by default lol |
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| 2021-07-21 14:01:44 | <diaspora[m]> | Kitty OwO: A bazillion new Rust-based Matrix clients will be coming out once the matrix-rust-sdk project has enough features and reaches stability. You can follow their work at #matrix-rust-sdk:matrix.org if you want. Maybe one of the new clients will meet your needs. (Fractal-Next is one such client being developed.) |
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| 2021-07-21 15:35:50 | <burp> | psi is a pretty good XMPP messenger, in my opinion |
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| 2021-07-21 18:07:45 | <liskin> | burp: it's not bad but it's no match for the configurabilty/scriptability of irc clients like irssi/weechat |
| 2021-07-21 18:08:32 | <liskin> | I wonder if we'll have a client like that for Matrix one day, or if that generation is already dead |
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| 2021-07-21 18:28:57 | <fizzie> | weechat's got a Matrix (Python) plugin, right? Saw that in a package list the other day. |
| 2021-07-21 18:32:28 | <liskin> | Yeah, it's shit. |
| 2021-07-21 18:33:16 | <liskin> | (I use it because what else am I meant to use, but it's really just crap and even for joining a channel I need to switch to Element.) |
| 2021-07-21 18:33:45 | <liskin> | It's only almost usable for sending messages in public channels, and that's about it. |
| 2021-07-21 18:56:59 | <geekosaur> | blargh. can't simply apply the keybind function because it wants the existentially wrapped version of the config |
| 2021-07-21 19:22:14 | <geekosaur> | oh, this sucks. doing this right requires added Read and Show instances |
| 2021-07-21 19:22:55 | <geekosaur> | they're actually present because the layouts wouldn't work otherwise, but I wonder if adding them will break anything else |
| 2021-07-21 19:41:24 | <geekosaur> | ok, PR force-pushed and should be good to go, at least it compiles here once I set up a compile env |
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| 2021-07-21 22:31:47 | <redgloboli> | hi, i'm new to xmonad and cannot figure out why the slash is not working within xmonad keybindings. everything else works. i got the slash as key on my numpad on my logitech g512. if i hit the slash button in a terminal or browser i see the slash written down, but it doesnt work in combination as a shortcut. if i press it in a terminal in combination with the windows key i get s/ . showkey says keycode 98. any hint in the right direction would be |
| 2021-07-21 22:31:47 | <redgloboli> | nice :) thx. |
| 2021-07-21 22:35:40 | <geekosaur> | the way we do keybindings, I'm not sure we bind both of them. especially since keypads behave somewhat weirdly in X11 |
| 2021-07-21 22:35:57 | <geekosaur> | does showkey show any modifiers? |
| 2021-07-21 22:38:28 | <geekosaur> | actually kP_Divide is different from / although terminals treat it the same. you would need a separate binding for it |
| 2021-07-21 22:39:28 | <geekosaur> | sorry xP_KP_Divide |
| 2021-07-21 22:39:37 | <redgloboli> | not in default mode. showkey -s show different results as it seems. showkey -a is also constantly printing the same. |
| 2021-07-21 22:39:45 | <geekosaur> | and might need to import Graphics.X11.Xlib.Types |
| 2021-07-21 22:41:36 | <geekosaur> | for example, I have both unbound here and emacs reports the one as "s-/" and the other as "s-kp-divide" |
| 2021-07-21 22:42:11 | <fizzie> | geekosaur: Still off by one: xK_KP_Divide. |
| 2021-07-21 22:42:34 | <fizzie> | (I cheated and checked the https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/src/XMonad.Util.EZConfig.html#specialKeys list.) |
| 2021-07-21 22:42:37 | <geekosaur> | sorry. I shoulda looked it up first :) |
| 2021-07-21 22:42:56 | <geekosaur> | in any case you must separately bind it |
| 2021-07-21 22:44:51 | <fizzie> | https://0x0.st/-VgX.txt is what I get out of xev for / and the other /, and yeah, the keysyms seem different even though the translated strings are the same. |
| 2021-07-21 22:47:35 | <redgloboli> | ah nice, thank you very much, i needed the Graphics.X11.Xlib.Types import. works as expected :) |
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