Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2021-08-14 09:44:13 | <Tisoxin> | well, as long as i don't pass xmonad and xmonad-contrib to inputs in the output section of the flake it seems to work? |
| 2021-08-14 09:44:47 | <Tisoxin> | wait what? xmond doesn't compile… |
| 2021-08-14 09:45:25 | <Tisoxin> | https://paste.debian.net/1207638/ |
| 2021-08-14 09:45:52 | <elonsroadster[m]> | Tosixon: thats probably just because nix is lazy... |
| 2021-08-14 09:47:30 | <Tisoxin> | what do you mean with that? |
| 2021-08-14 09:49:25 | <elonsroadster[m]> | the xmonad and xmonad-contrib attributes dont get evaluated at all if you dont use them |
| 2021-08-14 09:50:02 | <Tisoxin> | well, i use them… |
| 2021-08-14 09:50:56 | <elonsroadster[m]> | and you're saying you get the same error even with using the overlay |
| 2021-08-14 09:51:07 | <elonsroadster[m]> | instead of what you initially posted |
| 2021-08-14 09:51:38 | <Tisoxin> | yes, now i get the error https://paste.debian.net/1207638/ |
| 2021-08-14 09:56:07 | <elonsroadster[m]> | what thats not AT ALL the same |
| 2021-08-14 09:56:25 | <elonsroadster[m]> | if im going to help you you have to reliably report what is actually going on |
| 2021-08-14 09:56:39 | <elonsroadster[m]> | that means the overlay is working, but it might not work with the set of haskell packages that you are trying to use it with |
| 2021-08-14 09:56:56 | <elonsroadster[m]> | yes, that's exactly it |
| 2021-08-14 09:57:19 | <elonsroadster[m]> | the version of the X11 library in the haskellPackages of the nixpkgs you are trying to use this with is too old |
| 2021-08-14 09:57:49 | <elonsroadster[m]> | so you can either use a newer version of nixpkgs |
| 2021-08-14 09:58:29 | <elonsroadster[m]> | alternative if you try to do what you did originally, my guess is that while that would work, you would pull in all the haskell dependencies for xmonad completely separately from any other haskellpackages on your system |
| 2021-08-14 09:58:38 | <elonsroadster[m]> | which is probably not what you want |
| 2021-08-14 10:00:34 | <elonsroadster[m]> | I hate systems like this because they are so ridiculously complicated, and so often picked up by people who don't actually understand what they are doing |
| 2021-08-14 10:00:46 | <Tisoxin> | i know lol |
| 2021-08-14 10:00:59 | <Tisoxin> | . o O (Because I don't know what I'm doing) |
| 2021-08-14 10:01:24 | <elonsroadster[m]> | but why not just use flakes as is without all this shit |
| 2021-08-14 10:01:43 | <elonsroadster[m]> | theres just so much cognitive load for me now to try to figure out where your nixpkgs is coming from |
| 2021-08-14 10:01:59 | <Tisoxin> | you don't have to help that much |
| 2021-08-14 10:02:04 | <Tisoxin> | *to help me |
| 2021-08-14 10:02:24 | <elonsroadster[m]> | nixpkgs.follows = "nixos"; |
| 2021-08-14 10:02:24 | <Tisoxin> | The discussion with you already helped me a lot |
| 2021-08-14 10:02:31 | <elonsroadster[m]> | okay is it actually important to you to be on stable |
| 2021-08-14 10:02:52 | <elonsroadster[m]> | i think you probably need to be on unstable to actually use this flake |
| 2021-08-14 10:03:03 | <elonsroadster[m]> | but also you need to be on unstable to even compile xmonad on master at all anyway |
| 2021-08-14 10:03:31 | <elonsroadster[m]> | or i mean technically, you dont need to be on it (but then you have to use unstable JUST to compile xmonad) |
| 2021-08-14 10:03:50 | <elonsroadster[m]> | and pull in the whole set of packages for ghc and all of xmonads dependencies from unstable (which will be a lot) |
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| 2021-08-14 17:35:35 | <unrooted> | elonsroadster: I think it may not be enough, but I'd be satisfied enough to be just different from all those flashy neon configs there |
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| 2021-08-15 08:27:00 | <liskin> | I sent an e-mail yesterday to Chris Tronche (the guy behind https://tronche.com/gui/x/xlib/) about an expired TLS cert and here's what he included in his reply: “An X11 window manager written in Haskell ? Damned, sorry for having been a non-believer, but you just convinced me that it's possible to write something *real* with Haskell.” :-) |
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| 2021-08-15 10:29:13 | <Tisoxin> | :] |
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| 2021-08-15 11:20:08 | Server | sets mode +cnt |
| 2021-08-15 11:27:26 | <liskin> | uff, https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/compare/master...wygulmage:k |
| 2021-08-15 11:28:08 | <liskin> | looks like wygulmage has been working on thorougly rewriting xmonad core, I wonder why they're not here :-/ |
| 2021-08-15 11:31:47 | <liskin> | but then, if one was to refactor xmonad core, why stick with the StackSet as it is? some layouts like SubLayouts or BSP or perhaps a future layout that replaces the broken floats handling in core might really benefit from having a tree-like structure instead of a list/zipper |
| 2021-08-15 12:30:22 | <Solid> | liskin: I did get it yes (and it looks great!) |
| 2021-08-15 12:30:43 | <Solid> | wasn't able to answer yet, but I also do think it's high time we need to decide upon what we actually want to do with the (potential) money :) |
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