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2025-07-20 16:10:25 <haskellbridge> <AutisticCatGirl -> I hope im not bothering anyone with the "spam"... just posted this to the subreddit, hoping I can get some feedback from here... since xmonad is kinda a small community I thought its was worth the shot talking here, looking for your feedback :)
2025-07-20 16:10:29 <haskellbridge> https://www.reddit.com/r/xmonad/comments/1m4sjq2/screenshare_only_a_specific_workspace/
2025-07-20 16:13:09 <haskellbridge> <AutisticCatGirl -> The only thing that has worked so far is to move the position of the virtual display on top of the real one when I have something I want to screen share and then move it away, but that it's janky and slow as my displays refreshes, goes blank for 1-2 seconds, everytime I do that...
2025-07-20 16:16:26 <haskellbridge> <AutisticCatGirl -> If windows could just be drawn twice the setup I have now would work but at this point I don't think that is something XMonad can do... searching and searching I read that that was a compositing matter but if that's the case then I'm entirely clueless on how could I achieve my goal
2025-07-20 16:37:38 <geekosaur> yes, compositor or X server. xmonad actually tells the X server to windows which are `copyToAll`ed on all monitors, but it refuses and only draws it once
2025-07-20 16:39:22 <geekosaur> (well, not really any more: that led to "window appears at last requested position" and people preferred "first requested position" so we now remove it from the list after positioning it once)
2025-07-20 17:02:05 <haskellbridge> <AutisticCatGirl -> And how would one achieve that, if you know some tool's name or point me to resources necessary I would greatly appreciate it 😭
2025-07-20 17:06:07 <geekosaur> I don't know. presumably it would require patching a compositor to support multiple rendering, but that seems like it could be complicated
2025-07-20 17:11:24 <haskellbridge> <AutisticCatGirl -> Damn thats a shame, thanks for your input anyways! If someone else has something to add im all ears :)
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2025-07-21 02:08:11 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> Hmm, yeah... Things like Discord Screen Share only seem to be able to recognise the applications on the current workspace as existing. Like Discord has an option to screen share only certain applications instead of the entire screen. However, Discord only lets me select applications that are open on the same workspace as the Discord window.
2025-07-21 02:11:28 <geekosaur> that's a difference between how xmonad handles off-screen apps and how gnome and gnome-like window managers do
2025-07-21 02:11:46 <geekosaur> we unmap them, mutter and similar move them offscreen but still technically mapped
2025-07-21 02:13:35 <geekosaur> (that is, their lower right corners are at (-1,-1))
2025-07-21 02:15:51 <geekosaur> changing this requires forking xmonad and rewriting XMonad.Operations.windows
2025-07-21 02:16:51 <geekosaur> (and may impact how floating windows behave)
2025-07-21 02:17:58 <geekosaur> (although I think we don't make assumptions about their locations because different screen sizes will cause them to be moved/resized anyway)
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2025-07-21 02:43:51 <geekosaur> something to also understand here is that, for historical reasons, the contents of an unmapped window aren't normally available, which is why many other window managers move them offscreen instead. It used to be possible to enable backing store always (instead of WhenMapped) but I don't see it in Xserver(1) any more
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2025-07-21 03:08:05 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> I basically never need to screen share a single window, so I'm actually fine with not fixing this.
2025-07-21 03:08:20 <haskellbridge> <iqubic (she/her)> I can get by with sharing my entire screen most times.
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