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| 2021-08-16 18:19:26 | vojjvoda[m] | uploaded an image: (1301KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/KXiCwsFVWruRAoZnhcZaGrHP/clipboard.png > |
| 2021-08-16 18:19:27 | <vojjvoda[m]> | xmobar is my favourite bar |
| 2021-08-16 18:58:59 | <burp> | mine too |
| 2021-08-16 18:59:14 | <burp> | much flavor |
| 2021-08-16 19:00:30 | <burp> | libera has an official matrix bridge now? |
| 2021-08-16 19:01:48 | <geekosaur> | for some time, yes |
| 2021-08-16 19:12:50 | <Las[m]> | Nice background |
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| 2021-08-16 19:49:14 | <liskin> | vojjvoda[m]: that is a very pretty xmobar indeed! |
| 2021-08-16 19:49:23 | <liskin> | vojjvoda[m]: what's the camera icon do? |
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| 2021-08-16 19:59:50 | <Zarter[m]> | I am configuring my gentoo USE flags and I need to decide which de/wm I'll use, I am strongly considering xmonad, although is the config hard, and it has no support for floating windows, will it make it hard to browse the internet or such? |
| 2021-08-16 20:01:49 | <vifon> | It has support for floating windows, it's just a very clearly a secondary thing. |
| 2021-08-16 20:02:04 | <vifon> | "Hard" how? What are your worries? |
| 2021-08-16 20:02:25 | <Zarter[m]> | vifon: ohh, thx |
| 2021-08-16 20:02:50 | <Zarter[m]> | vifon: The setup, is it like kde and gnome, just install and play? |
| 2021-08-16 20:03:27 | <vifon> | Far from it. Think about it as of a framework to create the WM of your dreams. |
| 2021-08-16 20:03:43 | <vifon> | It's definitely usable almost out of the box, but you will want to tinker with it. |
| 2021-08-16 20:04:06 | <Zarter[m]> | and btw, this is my first tiling wm, although I don't want to go for a medioker one first due to compiling... |
| 2021-08-16 20:04:08 | <vifon> | If you have no experience with such WMs, AwesomeWM or i3wm may be a better start. |
| 2021-08-16 20:04:36 | <vifon> | Disclaimer: clearly just an opinion. |
| 2021-08-16 20:04:45 | <Zarter[m]> | but recompiling everything will be a huge hassel |
| 2021-08-16 20:05:14 | <vifon> | You won't need to recompile everything. |
| 2021-08-16 20:05:19 | <vifon> | Just some specific programs. |
| 2021-08-16 20:05:23 | <Zarter[m]> | But how hars is it to learn? |
| 2021-08-16 20:05:36 | <vifon> | Do you have any experience with Haskell? |
| 2021-08-16 20:05:45 | <Zarter[m]> | I mean probably, I will flag xmonad |
| 2021-08-16 20:06:02 | <Zarter[m]> | vifon: no experience at all... or any proframing languahe for that matter... |
| 2021-08-16 20:06:18 | <vifon> | I see no such USE flag. |
| 2021-08-16 20:06:20 | <vifon> | https://www.gentoo.org/support/use-flags/ |
| 2021-08-16 20:06:50 | <vifon> | I'd say go with i3wm for now and then explore other solutions. |
| 2021-08-16 20:07:25 | <Zarter[m]> | you are right, I supose I can just dissable the support for most distros |
| 2021-08-16 20:07:41 | <Zarter[m]> | wm/de* |
| 2021-08-16 20:08:06 | <vifon> | With XMonad you'd need to learn a new programming language (and programming itself in your case), how to efficiently use a tiling WM and then how to setup a non-DE. |
| 2021-08-16 20:08:09 | <Zarter[m]> | i3vm, is that the same a normal i3? |
| 2021-08-16 20:08:39 | <Zarter[m]> | I supose you are right |
| 2021-08-16 20:08:48 | <vifon> | https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/x11-wm/i3 |
| 2021-08-16 20:08:50 | <vifon> | This package, yes. |
| 2021-08-16 20:09:13 | <Zarter[m]> | I have heard a lot of bad stuff about i3 though |
| 2021-08-16 20:09:18 | <Zarter[m]> | but me, I trust you |
| 2021-08-16 20:09:22 | <vifon> | Definitely do experiment, but I'd say focus on getting a working solution first so you won't get frustrated from the get go. |
| 2021-08-16 20:09:38 | <vifon> | Bad stuff like what? |
| 2021-08-16 20:09:59 | <Zarter[m]> | But i3 is a good tiling windows maneger, whould you say it is better than awsome? |
| 2021-08-16 20:10:14 | <vifon> | It's quite fine. It turned into a McDonald's of tiling WMs as it's easy to get into, but it's totally fine. And you probably need exactly that. |
| 2021-08-16 20:10:25 | <vifon> | Yes, I'd say i3 will be an easier start. |
| 2021-08-16 20:11:10 | <Zarter[m]> | I don't need the easiest, I can have a bit of a learning curve, but not learning a whole language ofc |
| 2021-08-16 20:11:27 | <Zarter[m]> | but which whould you say is the best, i3 or awsome? |
| 2021-08-16 20:11:40 | <vifon> | Most tiling WMs use *some* language. The AwesomeWM config is in Lua. It may look arcane too at fist. |
| 2021-08-16 20:11:51 | <vifon> | i3wm uses a simple config file, no programming involved. |
| 2021-08-16 20:11:58 | <vifon> | *at first |
| 2021-08-16 20:12:41 | <Zarter[m]> | hmm, I supose |
| 2021-08-16 20:12:55 | <vifon> | And changing between them wouldn't involve much compilation. I don't think there are any relevant USE flags. At least not important ones. |
| 2021-08-16 20:13:13 | <vifon> | Not on the scale of GNOME/KDE. |
| 2021-08-16 20:13:55 | <vifon> | Compiling the whole i3wm shouldn't take longer than a minute if you already have the dependencies too. |
| 2021-08-16 20:14:01 | <vifon> | Zarter[m]: Is this your first time on Gentoo? |
| 2021-08-16 20:14:41 | <Zarter[m]> | Should I add the USE flag containing i3 or should I just remove thr largest normal ones? |
| 2021-08-16 20:14:56 | <vifon> | For example? |
| 2021-08-16 20:15:15 | <Zarter[m]> | kde, gnome xfce etc. |
| 2021-08-16 20:15:28 | <vifon> | Just remove them. |
| 2021-08-16 20:15:37 | <Zarter[m]> | vifon: yes |
| 2021-08-16 20:15:57 | <Zarter[m]> | What do you use? |
| 2021-08-16 20:15:57 | <vifon> | I see literally one package with the "i3wm" flag: polybar. And you're probably going to use i3bar anyway for now. |
| 2021-08-16 20:16:06 | <vifon> | So don't stress over it at all right now. |
| 2021-08-16 20:16:39 | <Zarter[m]> | So I shoukd Use add i3wm as a use flag? |
| 2021-08-16 20:16:45 | <vifon> | Nah. |
| 2021-08-16 20:16:48 | <vifon> | You don't need it. |
| 2021-08-16 20:16:54 | <Zarter[m]> | okay |
| 2021-08-16 20:17:08 | <vifon> | Do you know about equery? |
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