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2021-08-03 10:55:02 <vojjvoda[m]> I couldn't get it working
2021-08-03 10:55:53 <vojjvoda[m]> I set up all three variables in /etc/environment but xmonad errored out saying ~/.xmonad doesnt exist
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2021-08-03 11:44:20 <liskin> Solid: oh crap will 0.17 really be as big as all the previous releases combined?
2021-08-03 11:45:18 <liskin> we need to release soon then
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2021-08-03 11:48:08 <Solid> liskin: it's about 700 lines of the 1500 line changes.md
2021-08-03 11:48:16 <Solid> but that only goes back to 0.9
2021-08-03 11:48:27 <Solid> but it's definitely the biggest release in many years
2021-08-03 12:25:16 GauravsinghSisod is now known as grvxs[m]
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2021-08-03 13:53:31 <amenonsen> liskin: i'm happy to report that EWMH window activation is working nicely for me with your #399
2021-08-03 13:53:55 <amenonsen> (even though i see from the comments by now that you needed no further confirmation of this.)
2021-08-03 13:58:30 <electr0n> stoked for LayoutCombinators (JumpToLayout) being migrated to XMonad.Layout. been a pain to get that working the right way esp since I should just migrate to stack vs pacman.
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2021-08-03 14:27:54 <amenonsen> what are they/what do they do?
2021-08-03 14:45:50 <geekosaur> it's a replacement for the core's (|||) that allows JumpToLayout to work
2021-08-03 14:46:19 <geekosaur> which means it's a bit of a pain to set up, which is why we're migrating it to core
2021-08-03 14:49:02 <amenonsen> is that like how i have a `myLayoutHook = … where usual = minimize(Full ||| Tiled ||| Mirror tiled)` ?
2021-08-03 14:49:15 <geekosaur> yes
2021-08-03 14:49:40 <geekosaur> but you have to cycle through them with mod-space, there's no way to select one programmatically
2021-08-03 14:49:48 <geekosaur> which is what JumpToLayout provides
2021-08-03 14:50:38 <amenonsen> ah. thanks, now i understand.
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2021-08-03 14:58:00 <liskin> amenonsen: good to hear
2021-08-03 14:58:28 <liskin> But yeah, I didn't expect trouble with the implementation, it's the docs that are missing.
2021-08-03 14:58:45 <liskin> And the implementation will quite likely change anyway :-)
2021-08-03 14:59:32 <liskin> Dunno why I can't make myself get to it. Been postponing it too long and now it's this huge scary daemon or something :-/
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2021-08-03 16:23:47 <Solid> liskin: the faster that's done, the faster we can release 0.17, the faster people will be hyped up and (more) willing to drop money on the project
2021-08-03 16:23:55 <Solid> see it as an indirect payment :D
2021-08-03 16:24:02 <liskin> well actually
2021-08-03 16:24:09 <liskin> I'm just writing that e-mail
2021-08-03 16:24:22 <Solid> oh neat
2021-08-03 16:25:17 <liskin> and we might actually want to do the release (and the associated inevitable front page hacker news stuff :-D) only after we get the first couple dozen sponsors
2021-08-03 16:25:25 <liskin> but I'll stop the spoilers and get back to writing
2021-08-03 16:25:43 d4hines[m] parts (~d4hinesma@2001:470:69fc:105::cd0c) ()
2021-08-03 16:25:47 <amenonsen> oh, sponsors? where do i read more?
2021-08-03 16:25:57 <liskin> (I don't actually think we'll need to delay the release artificially)
2021-08-03 16:25:58 <Solid> maybe we'll at least get on the lobste.rs frontpage :P
2021-08-03 16:26:32 <liskin> amenonsen: nowhere just yet
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2021-08-03 16:27:16 <liskin> amenonsen: right now all we have is my own personal github sponsors profile that isn't very popular
2021-08-03 16:27:30 <liskin> possibly because I'm the worst marketing person ever
2021-08-03 16:29:12 <geekosaur> second worst :þ
2021-08-03 16:29:23 <liskin> true :-D
2021-08-03 17:31:50 <liskin> oh crap, seems like I've become one of those people whose text/plain parts look terrible
2021-08-03 17:32:16 <liskin> seems like format=flowed and markdown lists don't play along
2021-08-03 17:33:08 <liskin> (I write mails as markdown and mutt converts them to multipart with pandocced html before sending)
2021-08-03 17:33:52 <Solid> yeah anything that needs alignment will be a bad experience with f=f
2021-08-03 17:34:13 <Solid> one then has to mix hard and soft newlines... I guess that's one of the reasons why not many people use it these days
2021-08-03 17:41:18 <liskin> yep, will need to think about it next time
2021-08-03 17:44:47 <Solid> (funnily enough, it looks completely fine to me now that I actually go the mail)
2021-08-03 17:44:52 <Solid> s/go/got/
2021-08-03 17:45:18 <liskin> it looks crap in my mutt
2021-08-03 17:49:45 <Solid> more proof that emacs is better :D
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2021-08-03 18:00:14 <fizzie> The solution is, of course, to simply ensure a text/markdown part gets natively rendered by all email software and web-based email purveyors. With a matching dialect of Markdown.
2021-08-03 18:02:08 <liskin> Hm, that might be the issue: it's not a text/markdown part, it's text/plain.
2021-08-03 18:02:41 <liskin> If I send text/markdown most clients won't know what to do with that at all, no?
2021-08-03 18:05:50 <Solid> probably not
2021-08-03 18:06:12 <Solid> and another markdown dialect is most definitely _not_ something that'll improve this situation
2021-08-03 18:10:28 <triumphofdeath[m> ...hi @ALL, what is in your opinion the best way to install the xmonad - desktop to get into it, and make it with modified settings your own (Arco ...) ???
2021-08-03 18:12:51 <irishlucklinux[m> You could do ARCO but that has a lot of fluff in their. I say just download it and configure to your liking. Their are good resources out their now
2021-08-03 18:17:29 <triumphofdeath[m> irishlucklinux[m]: ... and which ???
2021-08-03 18:22:56 <Solid> triumphofdeath[m: you might have a gander at the tutorial: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/TUTORIAL.md
2021-08-03 18:48:05 <liskin> oh, speaking of the tutorial, I just merged my PR to xmonad-web, so we have this now: https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html
2021-08-03 18:49:16 <Solid> oh neat
2021-08-03 18:50:34 <Solid> does this do something clever to use the file from the xmonad repo?
2021-08-03 18:50:45 <liskin> yep, daily git submodule update
2021-08-03 18:50:58 <Solid> awww yeah
2021-08-03 18:51:02 <Solid> thanks <3
2021-08-03 18:51:19 <liskin> github pages happens to work with submodules without any extra effort
2021-08-03 19:19:48 <vojjvoda[m]> AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
2021-08-03 19:19:56 <vojjvoda[m]> LATEX NE RADI SA ĆIRILICOM
2021-08-03 19:19:58 <vojjvoda[m]> :))))
2021-08-03 19:23:59 <vojjvoda[m]> https://gitlab.com/vojjvoda/manifest/-/blob/master/manifest.md
2021-08-03 19:25:31 <Solid> uh... wrong channel?
2021-08-03 19:26:06 <vojjvoda[m]> sorry, wrong channel
2021-08-03 19:26:44 <vojjvoda[m]> i thouught i was sending my frustration with latex to a friend
2021-08-03 19:26:54 <vojjvoda[m]> latex doesnt like cyrilic
2021-08-03 19:28:04 <Solid> really? I figured babel would be enough to make it work
2021-08-03 19:28:32 <vojjvoda[m]> yeah im looking for a fix, im new to latex
2021-08-03 19:29:23 <Solid> even pdflatex should be able to handle most "language" unicode (the few times I had to use kanji symbols it worked fine, for example)
2021-08-03 19:29:42 <Solid> though if you want to define \newcommand's and stuff in cyrilic as well you may need lualatex or something
2021-08-03 19:29:57 <vojjvoda[m]> id really doesnt like : нешто попут овог
2021-08-03 19:30:35 <vojjvoda[m]> this is xmonad chat, sorry
2021-08-03 19:30:52 <Solid> no xmonad talk going on right now ;)
2021-08-03 19:31:26 vojjvoda[m] uploaded an image: (726KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/rgISUftThRPyymEwfcCVgdXE/clipboard.png >
2021-08-03 19:31:38 <vojjvoda[m]> here's mine rendition :D
2021-08-03 19:32:55 <Solid> oh that's a neat notification
2021-08-03 19:36:57 <vojjvoda[m]> thanks !

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