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2021-08-22 14:40:10 Alee[m] posted a file: xmonad.errors (4KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/twbBVqKBCcQhAdKlIOZDdPtK >
2021-08-22 14:40:12 <Alee[m]> I seem to get this
2021-08-22 14:40:15 Alee[m] posted a file: (12KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MBzVtHNXgTVxyFXAewJfuCIv/xmonad.hs >
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2021-08-22 16:06:53 <Solid> k needs to be a string but it is not
2021-08-22 16:07:11 <Solid> instead of [xK_1 .. xK_9] write something like (map show [1 .. 9 :: Int])
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2021-08-22 20:16:48 <Alee[m]> String as in like using quotes
2021-08-22 20:16:54 <Alee[m]> * String as in like using quotes?
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2021-08-22 21:28:15 <elonsroadster[m]> Does anyone know why smartSpacing, spacing etc. are deprecated in favor of spacingRaw? This seems like a poor decision to me, given how complicated the interface to spacingRaw is.
2021-08-22 21:28:15 <elonsroadster[m]> Why not just allow these convenience functions to continue to exist?
2021-08-22 21:29:03 <elonsroadster[m]> And to be clear, I'm someone who is pretty proficient in haskell. If the interface seems annoying and over-complicated to me, I imagine that it is going to turn a lot of new users off.
2021-08-22 21:29:51 <elonsroadster[m]> It's not that its impossible to tune it or understand it if you spend some time looking in to it, but I just don't see the issue with having these convenience functions that combine some set of sensible defaults
2021-08-22 21:32:27 <geekosaur> thsat might be a question for the mailing list, especially given some of the people involved are away on vacation
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2021-08-22 23:02:05 <M-elo-[m]> Alright.. spacingRaw is confusing.. wtf
2021-08-22 23:03:29 <M-elo-[m]> Is there any performance benefit to this or just a thing that happened?
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2021-08-22 23:05:30 <M-elo-[m]> Why would someone need:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/075686c38a7867fc83fcdea86ec3056c6bb7184d)
2021-08-22 23:05:40 <M-elo-[m]> * Why would someone need:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/023cc788cf90c26b86efdc8f58a26fb3cb596914)
2021-08-22 23:06:08 <M-elo-[m]> That is if it even compiles.. copied things around due to being a noob of course.
2021-08-22 23:06:21 <M-elo-[m]> * That is if it even compiles.. copied things around due to being a noob of course..
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2021-08-22 23:47:07 <liskin> elonsroadster[m]: I have no idea but git blame sometimes leads me to answers, although it does take some archeology sometimes, digging through PR comments and shit
2021-08-22 23:48:33 <liskin> (still on vacation so I'm definitely not getting involved)
2021-08-23 00:32:49 <elonsroadster[m]> liskin I went the git blame route. Seems like it happened as part of the rewrite but there was no discussion about the deprecations.
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2021-08-23 05:36:32 <Solid> elonsroadster[m]: I'm almost convinced the module just needs actual documentation in order to be less of a clusterfuck
2021-08-23 05:36:42 <Solid> but it's true that the decision to deprecate these functions is very weird
2021-08-23 05:37:08 <Solid> especially since in other modules we explicitly do provide some of these "here is a function that contains some sane defaults if you want to do X" type functions
2021-08-23 05:46:08 <elonsroadster[m]> <Solid> "elonsroadster: I'm almost..." <- Sure, but lack of documentation is not a justification for deprecating a function
2021-08-23 05:46:36 <Solid> nono, definitely not
2021-08-23 05:47:05 <elonsroadster[m]> I mean the suggestion to use `spacingRaw` is asinine. Not everyone wants to learn the details of how that module is implemented, and the vast majority of people are going to be happy with a uniform border.
2021-08-23 05:47:22 <Solid> to me #243 reads like all of these functions were simply removed in the first version and after LSLeary noted that simply breaking user configs was bad they were added back in in a deprecated form
2021-08-23 05:47:58 <Solid> oh there's even commits for that, it wasn't squashed
2021-08-23 06:08:07 <Solid> well, nothing's stopping us from undeprecating these and writing proper docs I suppose
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