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2025-10-13 02:43:10 <haskellbridge> <Nexilva> " , ("M3-2", namedScratchpadAction scratchpads "cool-retro-term") -- Caps Lock+2: Retro terminal" I have bound M3-2 to cool-retro-term. I can launch cool-retro-term from the command line, no errors are given. But when I try to launch it via xmonad's named scratchpad, nothing happens. I get no console and no errors.
2025-10-13 02:43:32 <haskellbridge> <Nexilva> " -- M3 = Hyper (Caps Lock)" M3 is my capslock key
2025-10-13 02:44:15 <haskellbridge> <Nexilva> " , ("M3-1", namedScratchpadAction scratchpads "pavucontrol") -- Caps Lock+1: Sound control" this works, so I know my capslock is mapped to Hyper
2025-10-13 02:44:46 <haskellbridge> <Nexilva> What can I do?
2025-10-13 02:53:28 <haskellbridge> <Nexilva> "NS "cool-retro-term" " I had accidentally called it 'crt'. Now it works.
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2025-10-13 04:31:25 <haskellbridge> <dpn> TIL about scratchpads
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2025-10-13 16:17:41 <haskellbridge> <AutisticCatGirl -> If I have a multi-head setup is it possible to change the focussed screen when the mouse move to that screen?
2025-10-13 16:19:58 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.18.1/docs/XMonad-Actions-UpdateFocus.html#v:focusUnderPointer
2025-10-13 16:22:43 <geekosaur> although I think if there's no window in that screen it probably doesn't work, because X11 doesn't provide enough information (multiscreen is a huge hack with a number of deficiencies, which is one reason Wayland exists)
2025-10-13 16:23:36 <geekosaur> hm, actually if there's a desktop background that isn't simply drawn into the root window and the mouse moves into it on screen change, it's guaranteed not to work
2025-10-13 16:31:16 <haskellbridge> <AutisticCatGirl -> It's weird, it sometimes focus the screen and sometimes not... I was precisely asking here because I couldn't find anything that changed focus whenever the mouse is on some screen instead of some window
2025-10-13 16:43:31 <geekosaur> right, as I said thats an X11 limitation
2025-10-13 16:46:22 <haskellbridge> <AutisticCatGirl -> Is there a hacky way I could use https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.18.1/docs/XMonad-Layout-IndependentScreens.html#v:focusScreen if I know the geometry of my screens?
2025-10-13 16:48:00 <geekosaur> not really, since you'd have to know when the mouse crossed into a screen and that is usually missing (it's the key part that makes this pretty much impossible to do in any way)
2025-10-13 16:48:21 <geekosaur> because as far as X11's core is concerned you didn't cross a screen boundary
2025-10-13 16:49:47 <geekosaur> (X11's own Screen abstractions ("zaphod mode") work differently and don't let you e.g. share or move windows between Screens, etc. the ximerama/xrandr hack extends the root window over all screens, so no events are delivered for moving between screens because they're all on the same root window)
2025-10-13 17:01:25 <geekosaur> I have to run now, sorry
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2025-10-14 00:34:12 <haskellbridge> <dpn> AutisticCatGirl -: I've struggled with this too - fwiw in my setup clicking on the desktop on the screen i want to select works
2025-10-14 00:34:50 <haskellbridge> <dpn> i just use keyboard to select the screen most of the time now
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