Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2021-06-26 18:49:19 | <liskin> | ptrcmd: there's r in scaleRationalRect viewrect r, so it is necessary, but you're right that something in the definition of flt is unnecessary: the filter (flip M.member m) doesn't need to be there |
| 2021-06-26 18:50:05 | <liskin> | ruffy_: check you xsession-errors |
| 2021-06-26 18:50:24 | <ptrcmd> | liskin: ah right |
| 2021-06-26 18:53:32 | <ruffy_> | liskin: The problem is that no .xsession-errors file is produced |
| 2021-06-26 18:54:23 | <ruffy_> | So I assume that it's not connected to the xserver |
| 2021-06-26 18:54:27 | <geekosaur> | what kind of system are you on? some use journald instead of .xsession-errors |
| 2021-06-26 18:54:33 | <liskin> | ruffy_: that's probably related to the way you run xmonad |
| 2021-06-26 18:54:40 | <geekosaur> | if it weren't connected to the x server then you wouldn't have a session |
| 2021-06-26 18:56:04 | <geekosaur> | or if you're using startx, the log will be on the original terminal |
| 2021-06-26 18:56:37 | <ruffy_> | geekosaur: ArchLinux |
| 2021-06-26 18:57:11 | <ruffy_> | Ahh makes sense, thanks. I will have a look there |
| 2021-06-26 18:57:42 | <ruffy_> | I run xmonad with "exec xmonad" in the .xinitrc file |
| 2021-06-26 18:58:08 | <geekosaur> | ok, yes, you need to look at the terminal or have .xinitrc redirect the session output somewhere |
| 2021-06-26 18:58:11 | <ruffy_> | mod-q stopped working approx. 2 weeks ago |
| 2021-06-26 18:58:22 | <ruffy_> | Thanks geekosaur :) |
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| 2021-06-27 11:28:32 | <Solid> | these responses from the gnome-panel maintainer rub me the wrong way somehow |
| 2021-06-27 11:35:42 | <liskin> | that's kind of expected, no? |
| 2021-06-27 11:36:42 | <liskin> | at least they're not telling us that we're utter fools who should've stopped supporting X11 years ago and joined their cult of forcing wayland upon users |
| 2021-06-27 11:37:42 | <liskin> | (which other gnome folks like Bastien would probably do if we were foolish enough to highlight them) |
| 2021-06-27 11:40:58 | <liskin> | anyway, the important thing is that we still have no idea what's the root cause, and if setting struts is not it, any further discussion about what struts gnome-panel sets is probably going to be unproductive |
| 2021-06-27 11:44:58 | <Solid> | Well, this is my first direct interaction with a gnome dev, so it's surprising to me :) |
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| 2021-06-27 12:06:47 | <liskin> | Oh :-) |
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| 2021-06-27 15:09:38 | <kenny1> | Hi everybody! This is uh my first time on the #xmonad IRC channel, but the rest of the comunity has been pretty pleasant so I thought I'd give it a go |
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| 2021-06-27 15:10:37 | <Solid> | hi :) |
| 2021-06-27 15:11:17 | <kenny1> | how long have you been on xmonad? |
| 2021-06-27 15:12:05 | <Solid> | my config says "First Edit: 28jun2019" and git history only goes back that far, so around that time I think |
| 2021-06-27 15:12:59 | <kenny1> | Oh wow that's uhhhhhh I can't math, but at least a little while |
| 2021-06-27 15:13:13 | <nomadx> | god those were the days |
| 2021-06-27 15:13:16 | <nomadx> | pre covid |
| 2021-06-27 15:13:20 | <nomadx> | wife still loved me etc |
| 2021-06-27 15:13:36 | <Solid> | well in comparison to other devs it's not a long time at all :P |
| 2021-06-27 15:13:48 | <kenny1> | maybe she still does? |
| 2021-06-27 15:13:53 | <Solid> | some people around here have been using xmonad for over 10 years or so |
| 2021-06-27 15:14:03 | <kenny1> | oh lord that's a long time |
| 2021-06-27 15:14:19 | <kenny1> | Is it ever possible to truly learn haskell? |
| 2021-06-27 15:14:26 | <kenny1> | I feel like they might know |
| 2021-06-27 15:14:51 | <Solid> | hah, sure |
| 2021-06-27 15:15:01 | <Solid> | haskell is not as foreign as some people make it out to be (at least imo) |
| 2021-06-27 15:15:32 | <kenny1> | I mean I'm starting to wrap my mind around it |
| 2021-06-27 15:16:14 | <kenny1> | just what is it really used for? I heard facebook's spam filter uses it |
| 2021-06-27 15:18:06 | <Solid> | Lots of companies use it; I think the original creators of xmonad got swallowed by banks |
| 2021-06-27 15:18:37 | <kenny1> | What do you mean? |
| 2021-06-27 15:18:40 | <kenny1> | by the bank thing |
| 2021-06-27 15:19:42 | <geekosaur> | haskell is heavily used in finance. but anyone who gets hired by a bank to do haskell ends up signing an nda that effectively prohibits their working with it outside the bank |
| 2021-06-27 15:20:01 | <Solid> | ^ |
| 2021-06-27 15:20:38 | <kenny1> | woah alright |
| 2021-06-27 15:20:53 | <kenny1> | you learn something new every day huh |
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| 2021-06-27 15:26:04 | liskin | thinks he'll never truly learn Haskell :-/ |
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| 2021-06-27 15:27:07 | <liskin> | ekmett's packages full of category theory stuff may just be beyond the capabilities of my brain |
| 2021-06-27 15:27:35 | <Solid> | that's probably mostly you not having the category theory background |
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