Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2021-07-19 21:47:00 | <geekosaur> | did you add the manageHook? |
| 2021-07-19 21:47:12 | <geekosaur> | it takes more than just the keybinding |
| 2021-07-19 21:56:34 | <aegon_> | this is my current conf https://dpaste.com/CVEF6Z5C2 |
| 2021-07-19 21:57:07 | <aegon_> | /nick aegon |
| 2021-07-19 22:00:20 | × | aegon quits (~mike@174.127.249.180) (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by aegon_))) |
| 2021-07-19 22:00:26 | aegon_ | is now known as aegon |
| 2021-07-19 22:06:26 | <geekosaur> | I had to install some llibs before brogue would run… but now it's running fine without any weirdness |
| 2021-07-19 22:06:34 | <geekosaur> | TwoPane layout |
| 2021-07-19 22:08:29 | → | benin0369 joins (~benin@183.82.177.8) |
| 2021-07-19 22:08:47 | <aegon> | geekosaur: try moving it to an empty desktop |
| 2021-07-19 22:08:58 | <aegon> | for me thats what causes the crash |
| 2021-07-19 22:10:25 | <aegon> | huh, also floatNextToggle just started working, I bet I messed up saving the buffer |
| 2021-07-19 22:11:38 | × | aegon quits (~mike@174.127.249.180) (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by aegon_))) |
| 2021-07-19 22:12:03 | → | aegon joins (~mike@174.127.249.180) |
| 2021-07-19 22:12:29 | <aegon> | my muscle memory is not the best for my restart binding, thats the third accidently reboot while testing this, lol |
| 2021-07-19 22:13:52 | <aegon> | or second :? your right though, floating doesn't seem to be a magical fix, wesnoth is still broken for me on float I'm going to try to get a list of what works / doesn't together and maybe there will be some common denominator that stands out |
| 2021-07-19 22:14:34 | <liskin> | you have a keybinding for reboot? :-D |
| 2021-07-19 22:15:30 | <geekosaur> | I didn't get a crash relocating it to an empty desktop |
| 2021-07-19 22:16:03 | <aegon> | yep, sleep, reboot and shutdown |
| 2021-07-19 22:16:48 | <geekosaur> | that said it went to full screen automatically because that desktop was empty, you said full screen rescued the crash? |
| 2021-07-19 22:16:57 | <aegon> | geekosaur: maybe something else is messed up in my system then, let me see if building from source repros for me, I'm on gentoo so i might have odd configs of libs installed that could be coming into play |
| 2021-07-19 22:17:02 | <geekosaur> | but then most of our layouts go full screen when empty, so |
| 2021-07-19 22:17:23 | <geekosaur> | yeh, I'm on ubuntu |
| 2021-07-19 22:17:41 | <geekosaur> | had to install sdl2-image to get it to work but otherwise it's ok |
| 2021-07-19 22:17:50 | <aegon> | yeah, maybe this is something else hitting me, nexuiz works fine but wesnoth is a crash, hedgewars is a crash, and for me, brogue on an empty desktop or moving to an empty desktop is a crash |
| 2021-07-19 22:18:03 | <aegon> | brogue is prolly the easiest to self compile, gonna see if i can get something out of debug symbols |
| 2021-07-19 22:18:05 | <geekosaur> | might try running it in a terminal to capture the error message |
| 2021-07-19 22:18:27 | <aegon> | aye, whatever is going on it doesn't message anything |
| 2021-07-19 22:18:44 | <aegon> | its a black window for a couple seconds then segfault |
| 2021-07-19 22:19:58 | <aegon> | sorry, not even segfault, wesnoth segfaults, brogue just derps on a black screen for a couple seconds and closes itself |
| 2021-07-19 22:21:40 | liskin | apt installs wesnoth to check, but half expects it to just work |
| 2021-07-19 22:21:47 | <geekosaur> | wesnoth didn't crash here when I tried it some time back but the mouse pointer was offset |
| 2021-07-19 22:24:13 | <liskin> | yeah, it just works |
| 2021-07-19 22:24:28 | <liskin> | automatically fullscreens and everything works fine |
| 2021-07-19 22:25:07 | <geekosaur> | hm, brogue backgrounds itself if I leave the desktop. have to maximize it with the taskbar to get it back |
| 2021-07-19 22:25:13 | <aegon> | #gentoo problems |
| 2021-07-19 22:25:21 | <aegon> | lol |
| 2021-07-19 22:25:40 | <aegon> | kk, i'm goin to try to get a debug build of brogue and see whats going on over here |
| 2021-07-19 22:25:52 | <liskin> | unlikely to be a gentoo problem |
| 2021-07-19 22:26:03 | <liskin> | more likely your xmonad config lacks ewmh and ewmhFullscreen |
| 2021-07-19 22:26:03 | <aegon> | what version of xmonad / x are you guys on, and is anyone on amd hardware? |
| 2021-07-19 22:26:22 | <liskin> | (as that's probably what handles the fullscreening here) |
| 2021-07-19 22:26:35 | <geekosaur> | I think both of us run xmonad from git |
| 2021-07-19 22:26:43 | <liskin> | (or possibly the isFullscreen --> doFullFloat managehook) |
| 2021-07-19 22:26:59 | <geekosaur> | liskin,k I didn't have fullscreen until I moved it to a workspace with no windows |
| 2021-07-19 22:27:23 | <geekosaur> | initially it was on workspace 1 with my shell window and correctly took up half the screen (TwoPane) |
| 2021-07-19 22:28:11 | <aegon> | what does the isFullscreen --> doFullFlot manage hook look like? or the ewmh i'll try different combos and see if one of em is a silve bullet, looking through docs now |
| 2021-07-19 22:28:33 | <liskin> | aegon: it's literally just that, "isFullscreen --> doFullFloat" :-) |
| 2021-07-19 22:29:28 | <geekosaur> | literally that, in the manageHook, but it needs XMonad.Hooks.ManageHelpers imported |
| 2021-07-19 22:29:48 | <liskin> | aegon: https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.16.999/XMonad-Hooks-EwmhDesktops.html#v:ewmhFullscreen |
| 2021-07-19 22:30:00 | <liskin> | here are the docs for the git version |
| 2021-07-19 22:30:07 | <liskin> | not sure if google picked them up yet |
| 2021-07-19 22:32:57 | <aegon> | hmm, not the isFullScreen hook |
| 2021-07-19 22:37:35 | <liskin> | https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/168775b0fcfb6f8d1c2191e7b868e5b636988401/.xmonad/xmonad.hs#L233 |
| 2021-07-19 22:37:37 | <aegon> | huh, my version of contrib didnt have ewmhFullscreen but passing the config through ewmh fixed evrything |
| 2021-07-19 22:38:10 | <geekosaur> | why am I not surprised? |
| 2021-07-19 22:38:15 | <aegon> | thats wierd, what is that doing differently and why do a ton of apps rely on it. |
| 2021-07-19 22:38:48 | <geekosaur> | bet this is like the problem dminuoso was having the other day, we need to put more stuff in _NET_SUPPORTED |
| 2021-07-19 22:39:06 | <geekosaur> | or any stuff in this case |
| 2021-07-19 22:39:49 | <geekosaur> | anyway we do/should recommend ewmh first when things don't work specifically because of this |
| 2021-07-19 22:40:10 | <geekosaur> | as dminuoso discovered, it's more than just fullscreen involved |
| 2021-07-19 22:40:25 | <aegon> | rtfm-ing on ewmh and it makes more sense that things might rely on it |
| 2021-07-19 22:43:00 | <aegon> | geekosaur: liskin: thanks for helping me find that, i've been avoiding apps with the problem for almost 3 years now, every once in a while i try to tackle it again and understand why things aren't working. Shoulda tried asking here :) |
| 2021-07-19 22:43:42 | <geekosaur> | I shoulda thought of that first :( especially whyen I saw your config didn't have it |
| 2021-07-19 22:43:51 | <aegon> | i wonder if this fixes soem steam issues i had a long time ago / gave up on, I'll try that out this weekend |
| 2021-07-19 22:46:38 | <geekosaur> | steam might also be mono support which still requires me to find something that breaks and play around with external reparenting |
| 2021-07-19 22:46:54 | <geekosaur> | since rewiring xmonad to be a reparenting wm would be a lot of work |
| 2021-07-19 22:47:10 | <liskin> | I haven't seen any xmonad-related problem with steam games for quite a while |
| 2021-07-19 22:47:24 | <liskin> | and I do play games somewhat often lately |
| 2021-07-19 22:48:07 | <geekosaur> | 9interestiing, maybe mono fixed its interaction with nonreparenting wms when nobody was looking (same problem as java, minus hackaround) |
| 2021-07-19 22:48:25 | <liskin> | so I'd say there's a fair chance that using ewmh/ewmhFullscreen and recent xmonad will just be happy sailing for others as well |
| 2021-07-19 22:48:29 | <geekosaur> | (or maybe they adopted the same hackaround for compatibility) |
| 2021-07-19 22:48:58 | <liskin> | it's still possible I'm not playing any mono games |
| 2021-07-19 22:49:12 | <liskin> | the one I do uses wine/proton |
| 2021-07-19 22:49:46 | <liskin> | oh actually there's libmono.so in a couple games here |
| 2021-07-19 22:49:48 | <liskin> | and all just work |
| 2021-07-19 22:56:54 | <aegon> | this is pretty exciting, if you know of any games that were having mono issues i'd be happy to help test |
| 2021-07-19 23:11:51 | → | cjb joins (~cjb@user/cjb) |
| 2021-07-20 00:48:07 | <geekosaur> | so I'd been trying to avoid it because of all the downloads and registrations but I am now installing unity editor to see what's wrong with it. (watch it also work with ewmh…) |
| 2021-07-20 00:48:51 | <geekosaur> | I'd assumed it was a mono problem but you make it sound like not, unless they're using an older version or something |
| 2021-07-20 01:20:15 | × | aegon quits (~mike@174.127.249.180) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2021-07-20 01:20:40 | → | aegon joins (~mike@174.127.249.180) |
| 2021-07-20 01:50:53 | <geekosaur> | hm. I'm also considering trapping the key function returning (0,0) and substituting our default, since `def` can't be made to work there. comments? (https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Hooks/StatusBar.hs#L288) |
| 2021-07-20 01:52:16 | → | berberman joins (~berberman@user/berberman) |
| 2021-07-20 01:52:18 | <geekosaur> | only problem I can think of is someone wanting to deliberately do nothing, but in that case I think they want withSB instead of withEasySB |
| 2021-07-20 01:52:43 | × | Guest35 quits (~Guest35@2.57.169.23) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
| 2021-07-20 01:53:17 | × | berberman_ quits (~berberman@user/berberman) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2021-07-20 01:54:02 | <geekosaur> | (more correctly, `def` is going to expand to `const (0,0)` and there's no way to override it without an unreliable overlapping instance) |
| 2021-07-20 01:55:19 | <geekosaur> | so catch the (0,0) and do what they probably intended |
| 2021-07-20 01:56:41 | <geekosaur> | it's also conceivable they're doing something tricky that only works with their config, but in that case I think again they're better off defining it themself |
| 2021-07-20 02:00:25 | × | aplainzetakind quits (~johndoe@captainludd.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) |
| 2021-07-20 02:01:28 | × | slep quits (~slep@cpc150002-brnt4-2-0-cust437.4-2.cable.virginm.net) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) |
| 2021-07-20 02:04:01 | → | slep joins (~slep@cpc150002-brnt4-2-0-cust437.4-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 2021-07-20 02:04:45 | → | aplainzetakind joins (~johndoe@captainludd.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) |
| 2021-07-20 02:04:48 | × | banc quits (banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2021-07-20 02:05:47 | → | amirography joins (~amirograp@static.82.147.251.148.clients.your-server.de) |
| 2021-07-20 02:07:55 | × | amirography quits (~amirograp@static.82.147.251.148.clients.your-server.de) (Client Quit) |
| 2021-07-20 02:09:39 | → | amirography[m] joins (~amirograp@2001:470:69fc:105::c365) |
| 2021-07-20 02:11:17 | × | td_ quits (~td@muedsl-82-207-238-108.citykom.de) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2021-07-20 02:11:20 | <amirography[m]> | Hey all. Is there a way that I can make it obvious to my self which screen my focus is on? I'm using ScreensLayout to split my 55inch tv. However, I have trouble finding out which part has the focus at which moment. |
All times are in UTC.