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2021-05-27 17:43:29 <liskin> that is truly weird
2021-05-27 17:46:44 <jg> It’s been driving me crazy. I’ve been trying in virtual box and maybe it’s somehow linked. So I might just wipe my laptop and try on there to see if it’s a virtual box issue
2021-05-27 17:47:12 <liskin> it's definitely not
2021-05-27 17:47:21 <liskin> there must be a saner explanation
2021-05-27 17:48:03 <liskin> might be best if you come back when you can interactively run commands in there
2021-05-27 17:48:08 <liskin> right now it's just a guessing game
2021-05-27 17:48:37 <jg> Yea that’s true, was on a lunch break so just figured I’d pop in.
2021-05-27 17:48:50 <jg> Any chance you’ll be on later this evening?
2021-05-27 17:49:10 <liskin> quite likely yes
2021-05-27 17:49:40 <liskin> well, not sure what evening means in your timezone, I'm in London timezone
2021-05-27 17:50:19 <jg> Lol like 5-6 pm PST
2021-05-27 17:50:28 <jg> so maybe not
2021-05-27 17:51:21 <liskin> 1 am
2021-05-27 17:51:39 <liskin> that I cannot promise :-)
2021-05-27 17:51:56 <jg> I totally understand!
2021-05-27 17:52:30 <Solid> liskin: looks good and works for me :)
2021-05-27 17:52:40 <liskin> Solid: \o/
2021-05-27 17:52:54 <jg> I’ll try tonight. I asked yesterday but I’d appeared no one was available to answer :) or maybe just didn’t know haha
2021-05-27 17:53:02 <jg> I appreciate y’all :)
2021-05-27 18:25:49 <Solid> liskin: just double checking: is it okay if I force push the branch for web/#27 or are you still working on something?
2021-05-27 18:26:15 <liskin> Solid: not working on your branch so it's okay
2021-05-27 18:27:07 <liskin> (it wouldn't be okay if I intended to look at the diff since last push but in this case that won't be necessary)
2021-05-27 18:37:29 <liskin> geekosaur: have we considered adding Solid to the core team?
2021-05-27 18:38:55 <liskin> I feel that I'm too much of a bottleneck in merging stuff :-)
2021-05-27 18:39:05 <geekosaur> I just went with a minimum, I'm not opposed to it
2021-05-27 18:39:39 <geekosaur> oh, for github. no problem
2021-05-27 18:40:04 <liskin> is there some other notion of it?
2021-05-27 18:40:26 tremon joins (~tremon@217-63-61-89.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl)
2021-05-27 18:40:30 <liskin> (afk, dinner, sorry)
2021-05-27 18:43:24 <geekosaur> the channel access list, which I can';t recall who I requested access for
2021-05-27 18:47:02 <geekosaur> anyway they should be added now
2021-05-27 18:47:31 <jg> Would y’all have any books or websites you’d recommend for learning Haskell
2021-05-27 18:48:31 <geekosaur> https://www.haskell.org/documentation/ hasa number of suggestions and should be fairly up to date
2021-05-27 18:48:41 <geekosaur> including various online courses
2021-05-27 18:52:54 <jg> Thank you
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2021-05-27 19:14:58 <liskin> geekosaur: I am not sure if what you requested access for matters; the opers gave access to just me and I then added you and Solid as well
2021-05-27 19:15:29 <liskin> and I have absolutely no idea who's "authorized to represent the xmonad project" regarding cloaks and claiming other channels
2021-05-27 19:15:54 <liskin> may be tied to flags on this channel, may be a separate concept altogether
2021-05-27 19:17:44 lisq joins (~quassel@lis.moe)
2021-05-27 19:19:09 <Solid> geekosaur: liskin oooh, thank you two :)
2021-05-27 19:20:11 <Solid> liskin: the "authorized" person is usually the channel contact; this is usually the person to send the mail regarding the registration (or you have to name a contact in that email, I can't quite remember)
2021-05-27 19:20:33 <geekosaur> I think the point is this channel isn't yet properly registered
2021-05-27 19:20:51 <geekosaur> so we don't have an authorized contact as such yet
2021-05-27 19:20:56 <Solid> oh okay
2021-05-27 19:21:00 <liskin> it is
2021-05-27 19:21:02 <liskin> 20:01:06 -- ChanServ: The #xmonad namespace is registered to the xmonad project
2021-05-27 19:21:46 <liskin> I just have no idea if anybody looked at the e-mail or if they just did it ad-hoc based on my pinging them
2021-05-27 19:22:05 <geekosaur> you made it sound like the latter
2021-05-27 19:22:14 <liskin> I gave them the ticket number, so I can't rule out either
2021-05-27 19:22:28 <liskin> it probably doesn't matter, anyway
2021-05-27 19:24:04 <liskin> they wanted a github commit or website change as proof, and they'll probably be okay with doing this again if the requested isn't on the list
2021-05-27 19:24:15 <liskin> *requester
2021-05-27 19:24:56 <liskin> can't really blame them for taking shortcuts :-)
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2021-05-27 20:52:54 <mc47> any reason the willFloat issue is an issue, and not a PR? :)
2021-05-27 20:56:53 <liskin> 2021-05-24 11:04:18 liskin always_blue: would you perhaps open a github issue and attach the few lines of code you ended up with, so that we can think about putting it somewhere?
2021-05-27 20:57:12 <liskin> tldr I wasn't sure where it belongs
2021-05-27 20:57:54 <liskin> if we just stick it in XMonad.ManageHook in core then we can't use it in Operations I think
2021-05-27 20:58:05 <mc47> thanks liskin!
2021-05-27 20:58:07 <liskin> if we put in in ManageHelpers then obviously we can't use it in core either
2021-05-27 20:58:22 <liskin> and being in a different repo the risk of it diverging becomes greater
2021-05-27 20:58:28 <mc47> hmmm
2021-05-27 20:58:39 <liskin> maybe I'm overthinking it
2021-05-27 20:58:57 <liskin> obviously I'm am, I asked for a github issue specifically so that I can overthink it. :-)
2021-05-27 20:59:55 <mc47> why can't we put in Operations?
2021-05-27 21:00:19 <mc47> oh right
2021-05-27 21:01:04 <liskin> well we probably can
2021-05-27 21:01:17 <liskin> it's just a bit weird to put a ManageHook in there :-)
2021-05-27 21:01:30 <liskin> we can split it even more though
2021-05-27 21:01:32 <mc47> wait I'm a bit confused, I'm not familiar with the structure of the core
2021-05-27 21:01:46 <liskin> Window -> X Bool into Operations and a Query Bool wrapper on top of it in ManageHook
2021-05-27 21:01:51 <geekosaur> Operations runs ManageHooks already so they're already in there in some fashion
2021-05-27 21:02:22 <liskin> geekosaur: X.ManageHook depends on X.Operations, Operations just uses the Query data type from X.Core
2021-05-27 21:03:25 <liskin> and it doesn't belong in X.Core either as X.Core contains almost no X11 stuff
2021-05-27 21:04:47 <mc47> I like the Window -> X Bool and Query Bool wrapper idea
2021-05-27 21:06:03 <liskin> it's probably the cleanest, yeah
2021-05-27 21:06:25 <liskin> we'll need to invent two names for it though :-)
2021-05-27 21:07:04 <mc47> the harder part about this whole thing
2021-05-27 21:08:16 <liskin> :-)
2021-05-27 21:10:08 <mc47> huh, insertPosition is still acting weird though
2021-05-27 21:10:41 <mc47> I'm too tired to dig into this tonight...
2021-05-27 21:11:38 × jg quits (~jg@12.218.15.210) (Quit: Client closed)
2021-05-27 21:16:59 <liskin> well thanks for looking into it anyway
2021-05-27 21:17:15 <liskin> I wanted to link the willFloat issue in there and couldn't find it :-)
2021-05-27 21:17:37 <liskin> solidly tired as well.
2021-05-27 21:18:26 <mc47> it took me a solid 10 minutes to find it, during which I forgot what I was looking for
2021-05-27 21:18:30 <mc47> well, it's a night for me
2021-05-27 21:18:35 <mc47> good night :)
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