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2021-05-26 17:35:26 × hi quits (~hi@c-67-176-187-120.hsd1.il.comcast.net) (Client Quit)
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2021-05-26 18:03:07 <liskin> geekosaur: not sure if you noticed, but freenode channels were hijacked this morning so I decided it's time to message the ircops directly and they dealt with our application in no time
2021-05-26 18:03:22 <liskin> geekosaur: just added you as a founder to chanserv
2021-05-26 18:03:52 <liskin> if anyone has any idea what cloaks we want I'm all ears
2021-05-26 18:03:55 <geekosaur> yeh, I noticed the hijacking last night around midnight my time
2021-05-26 18:04:07 <liskin> probably just @xmonad/developer/… ?
2021-05-26 18:04:19 <geekosaur> I was planning to get a haskell cloak tbh, since I'm an op over there
2021-05-26 18:04:43 <liskin> oh, okay :-)
2021-05-26 18:05:03 <Solid> liskin: libera (on their website) suggests projectname/*
2021-05-26 18:05:13 <Solid> which I think works fine
2021-05-26 18:05:43 <liskin> we're probably small enough a community that cutting the middle level makes sense
2021-05-26 18:05:44 <Solid> a haskell cloak is of course much more prestigious than a mere xmonad cloak :>
2021-05-26 18:05:53 <liskin> is it?
2021-05-26 18:07:21 <Solid> cloaks are usually only given to people affiliated with projects, so a haskell cloak would indicate (to me) affiliation with the language in some way
2021-05-26 18:07:28 <Solid> sounds prestigious to me
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2021-05-26 18:09:50 <Solid> there it is again
2021-05-26 18:10:12 <geekosaur> yeh, was just about to msg tomsmeding about it when it connected again
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2021-05-26 18:18:37 <hi> I'm still getting the language problem, though I was able to set the locale. I'm also getting this error: error while loading shared libraries: libHSxmonad-contrib-0.16-KKfUmtIonstICqbgIKQKYh-ghc8.10.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
2021-05-26 18:25:29 <geekosaur> arch? you may want to start over with stack, arch has a broken haskell package ecosystem
2021-05-26 18:26:07 <Solid> these kins of reports are coming in more frequently
2021-05-26 18:26:11 <Solid> I wonder what they broke this time
2021-05-26 18:27:27 <geekosaur> there's a shortcoming in xmonad's recompilation detection: it detects changes in your config, but not in dependencies like xmonad-contrib
2021-05-26 18:28:09 <geekosaur> this normally doesn't show up because xmonad is statically linked everywhere but on arch
2021-05-26 18:28:26 <hi> yeah, I'm on manjaro
2021-05-26 18:28:44 <hi> I did their stuff for xmonad, then tried building again with stack, but it looks like everything is still pointing to the old arch files
2021-05-26 18:29:14 <Solid> we just had someone using arch doing a writeup on how to properly build with stack
2021-05-26 18:29:55 <Solid> check out this issue https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/301
2021-05-26 18:30:14 <Solid> and their resulting SO answer: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67710115/broken-xmonad-dependencies-after-pacman-update-how-to-compile-it-with-stack/67710116#67710116
2021-05-26 18:30:28 <Solid> which should just be what's in INSTALL.md, but you never know
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2021-05-26 18:34:35 Server sets mode +cnt
2021-05-26 19:07:57 <liskin> Solid: they didn't necessarily break anything new
2021-05-26 19:08:04 <liskin> it's just the natural state of things
2021-05-26 19:09:00 <liskin> distrotube talks about xmonad → lots of new people install xmonad (on arch, naturally, because demographics) → a few months pass and people's systems update → all those people come in complaining
2021-05-26 19:10:00 <liskin> not implying that DT or those new people are to blame, our installation story and docs aren't perfect either
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2021-05-26 19:13:10 <hi> I'm trying to do everything via stack but now it's telling me that ~/.local/share/xmonad/xmonad-x86_64-linux: executeFile: does not exist (No such file or directory)
2021-05-26 19:13:59 matijja joins (~matijja@193.77.181.208)
2021-05-26 19:14:01 <liskin> hi: do you have a build script?
2021-05-26 19:14:53 <Solid> liskin: I would expect arch users to update their system fairly often; why are these issues bunching up now?
2021-05-26 19:14:56 <hi> yes
2021-05-26 19:15:24 <geekosaur> because only now did someone change the xmonad package in such a way that the xmonad-contrib hash changed?
2021-05-26 19:15:27 <hi> build script looks like https://github.com/slotThe/xmonad/blob/new-tutorial/INSTALL.md#tell-xmonad-how-to-recompile-itself
2021-05-26 19:15:43 <liskin> Solid: I wouldn't know such details
2021-05-26 19:15:47 <geekosaur> sorry, xmonad-contrib package
2021-05-26 19:16:36 <geekosaur> the arch maintainer's been known to grab (sometimes older) git releases
2021-05-26 19:17:01 <liskin> hi: that's a bit weird, xmonad does tell the buildscript where to place the result
2021-05-26 19:18:00 <liskin> I should probably set up an "ordinary user's xmonad setup" somewhere cause otherwise I have no idea whether this stuff works or what it's supposed to look like :-/
2021-05-26 19:18:38 <geekosaur> that's why I betaed the cabal instructions with my own config :)
2021-05-26 19:18:40 <liskin> hi: does xmonad --recompile show any interesting output?
2021-05-26 19:18:53 <hi> success is all
2021-05-26 19:19:11 <hi> uses the right build script at the right location
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2021-05-26 19:27:39 <geekosaur> sigh, need to get a new router, this one did not survive a couple years in storage — it crashes regularly
2021-05-26 19:28:50 <hi> throws a couple small errors when compiling xmonad-contrib
2021-05-26 19:29:05 <hi> stack, from git, I mean
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2021-05-26 19:38:59 <geekosaur> I don't think there's such aa thing as "small" errors; can you pastebin?
2021-05-26 19:39:05 <geekosaur> @where paste
2021-05-26 19:39:05 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2021-05-26 19:48:00 <hi> ty. here's what happens when I stack install https://paste.tomsmeding.com/2LOuaCsv
2021-05-26 19:48:28 <hi> they're the only errors that pop up in the process until I try to execute; build says it passes successfully
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2021-05-26 19:49:48 <geekosaur> ok, those are mostly deprecation warnings, I think cleanups there are still pending in git. but I notice right at the end that it's copying to the wrong executable name, the buildscript should be overriding it
2021-05-26 19:49:53 <geekosaur> …whoops
2021-05-26 19:50:19 <liskin> is it though?
2021-05-26 19:50:29 <liskin> that's just install of xmonad and -contrib
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2021-05-26 19:51:44 <geekosaur> hm, that implies the buildscript is wrong, then
2021-05-26 19:51:54 <geekosaur> or they're not running the buildscript
2021-05-26 19:51:55 <liskin> does it?
2021-05-26 19:51:59 <liskin> yep
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2021-05-26 19:53:39 <geekosaur> hi20, is this using the buildscript or just building xmonad and xmonad-contrib?
2021-05-26 19:54:23 <hi20> stack init/stack install/xmonad --recompile
2021-05-26 19:54:53 <liskin> but there's no xmonad --recompile output in the paste
2021-05-26 19:55:39 <hi20> xmonad --recompile exits successfully
2021-05-26 19:55:48 <hi20> that paste was the output of stack install
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2021-05-26 19:57:24 <liskin> with no output? okay can you put "set -x" above the stack exec in the build script?
2021-05-26 20:00:12 <hi20> I don't think I have a build script. I followed this: https://github.com/slotThe/xmonad/blob/new-tutorial/INSTALL.md
2021-05-26 20:00:28 <hi20> OH WAIT
2021-05-26 20:00:31 <hi20> gah
2021-05-26 20:00:59 <hi20> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/f35ecf91a8cb4ee85db794df376f2c7f/pasted.txt
2021-05-26 20:01:38 <liskin> that jk is a typo?
2021-05-26 20:03:06 <hi20> ty
2021-05-26 20:05:18 <hi20> still having this problem: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/4mKbfN8y
2021-05-26 20:06:57 <liskin> that's probably expect if another WM is running?
2021-05-26 20:07:01 <liskin> *expected
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