Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
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| 2025-11-07 17:18:03 | <OpenSource> | geekosaur, It's me Nexilva from Matrix. Have you triex Xwayland or wayland-x11 to run Xmonad? Is that a possibility? |
| 2025-11-07 17:20:36 | <geekosaur> | Xwayland won't fly, I'm pretty sure. wayland-x11 is the one liskin mentioned that should be able to do it; as I said, I want to test it at some point |
| 2025-11-07 17:28:40 | <geekosaur> | btw you don't need to be on the irc side of the bridge |
| 2025-11-07 17:29:32 | <geekosaur> | I'm on both sides because I run the bridge (here and for a number of other Haskell-related channels/rooms) and I want to be able to monitor easily. but I'm a chanop irc-side so I mostly stick to this side |
| 2025-11-07 17:32:24 | <OpenSource> | Np. I had to get on IRC to do some research on this matter. I'm asking arch and debian folks about x11 phasing out |
| 2025-11-07 17:32:41 | <OpenSource> | I figured I'll join xmonad channel here as well instead of switching windows |
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| 2025-11-07 18:07:10 | <liskin> | wayback is the one I mentioned |
| 2025-11-07 18:07:18 | <liskin> | I believe it uses Xwayland under the hood |
| 2025-11-07 18:09:44 | <liskin> | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayback/wayback |
| 2025-11-07 18:10:05 | <liskin> | "It is essentially |
| 2025-11-07 18:10:07 | <liskin> | a stub compositor which provides just enough Wayland capabilities to host |
| 2025-11-07 18:10:09 | <liskin> | a rootful Xwayland server." |
| 2025-11-07 18:10:41 | <liskin> | So yeah Xwayland plus wlroots plus a tiny little bit of glue |
| 2025-11-07 18:13:59 | <liskin> | Not even exaggerating - it's 3 common header/c files and 3 binaries c files. Quite possibly less code than early xmonad core |
| 2025-11-07 18:14:35 | <liskin> | Maybe I should give it a try. Compton/picom gives me headaches |
| 2025-11-07 18:23:07 | <geekosaur> | I've found the picom in 25.04 pretty decent |
| 2025-11-07 18:23:14 | <geekosaur> | but my head isn't yours |
| 2025-11-07 18:23:44 | <geekosaur> | (different things give me headaches. If I'm lucky. More likely my brain just overloads and starts dropping stuff on the floor) |
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| 2025-11-07 22:06:23 | <liskin> | I meant it metaphorically |
| 2025-11-07 22:07:27 | <liskin> | Took years for picom to get to a point where it's not visibly slower than compton and also doesn't flicker weirdly |
| 2025-11-07 22:08:37 | <liskin> | And somewhere in those years it started requiring GL features that aren't available in virgl (that's the qemu thing), so I still can't use it on all my machines |
| 2025-11-07 22:42:01 | <geekosaur> | ah, right. I don't even bother with compositing in virtualization, IME it always drags the system to a crawl and usually looks lousy |
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| 2025-11-08 08:12:24 | haskellbridge | Solid still doesn't use a compositor :] |
| 2025-11-08 09:26:04 | <haskellbridge> | <Nexilva> I use xcompmgr 🙂 for basic transparency and that's about it. |
| 2025-11-08 09:59:01 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> Nexilva: Why |
| 2025-11-08 09:59:01 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> Do you use the legacy software XComposite & XRender copies |
| 2025-11-08 09:59:58 | <haskellbridge> | <Nexilva> I have no idea if I do or not. I don't know enough to answer that. |
| 2025-11-08 10:00:15 | <haskellbridge> | <Nexilva> I just know I can't get transparency in my terminal if I don't use xcompmgr |
| 2025-11-08 10:10:05 | <liskin> | I remember xcompmgr being quite buggy with xrandr changes, that's why I switched to compton |
| 2025-11-08 10:10:42 | <liskin> | I probably only really need it for dunst notifications |
| 2025-11-08 10:11:28 | <liskin> | And getting rid of tearing but I rarely watch moving pictures on my laptop these days |
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