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2021-06-04 17:29:01 <liskin> shall I bump xmonad version to help people not get confused about compile errors when they only update xmonad-contrib but not xmonad?
2021-06-04 17:29:27 <liskin> and if yes, do we go the Don Knuth way of adding more decimal digits or just .1 at the end? :-)
2021-06-04 17:29:46 <liskin> the former might be fun
2021-06-04 17:34:12 a6a45081-2b83 joins (~aditya@106.212.70.132)
2021-06-04 17:57:16 <Solid> I think that would be nice yeah
2021-06-04 17:57:30 <Solid> there are a surprising number of people who are on the git version(s)
2021-06-04 17:58:45 <Solid> I don't really mind concerning the numbering
2021-06-04 17:58:48 <Solid> numbers are evil anyways :)
2021-06-04 17:59:09 <liskin> what do mathematicians use instead of numbers these days?
2021-06-04 17:59:33 <Solid> categories of course!
2021-06-04 18:00:16 <Solid> you can get through a graduate course in mathematics with just the numbers 1-10 ez :P
2021-06-04 18:01:17 <liskin> is that why Haskell PVP uses two components for the major version instead of just one like SemVer?
2021-06-04 18:03:40 <Solid> that would be pretty funny
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2021-06-04 18:05:34 <liskin> okay so we're at four nines now
2021-06-04 18:05:58 <liskin> and the xmonad 0.17 board is looking really good
2021-06-04 18:06:05 <liskin> this was a good week :-)
2021-06-04 18:07:34 <Solid> oh wow
2021-06-04 18:07:37 <Solid> almost done! :)
2021-06-04 18:11:15 <liskin> yeah, just the EWMH stuff
2021-06-04 18:12:41 <liskin> and the various docs
2021-06-04 18:17:54 <liskin> oh, and deprecations!
2021-06-04 18:18:21 <liskin> I'd really like to make deprecation warnings visible before the release
2021-06-04 18:21:00 <Solid> oh right
2021-06-04 18:21:12 <Solid> we still need to decide what to do with that
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2021-06-04 19:51:09 <davve> shouldnt xmonad be bumped to 1.x? seems pretty stable to me :P
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2021-06-04 22:03:53 <liskin> mc47: I've made the leap to dynamicSBs https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/commit/168775b0fcfb6f8d1c2191e7b868e5b636988401?w=1 :-)
2021-06-04 22:05:15 <liskin> mc47: if you ever see xmobar not getting killed, try this: https://github.com/liskin/xmonad-contrib/commit/80918a1488a3323cb54e1853c0030eec347c16d6
2021-06-04 22:05:41 <liskin> I don't really know why it happens, but it used to happen here like once a week or something :-/
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2021-06-04 22:16:13 <mc47> liskin that's awesome \o/
2021-06-04 22:16:21 <mc47> It has been a pretty good week tbh, kudos
2021-06-04 22:17:13 <mc47> I never had the xmobar problem though, it's pretty odd that you have it
2021-06-04 22:17:43 <liskin> it is indeed
2021-06-04 22:18:03 <liskin> more so that I didn't have it for like 5 years
2021-06-04 22:18:14 <liskin> or I don't know how long I had those dynamic bars
2021-06-04 22:18:29 <liskin> and then suddenly one week it started happening
2021-06-04 22:24:03 <mc47> at least it's cool that you can hide the patch inside X.H.StatusBar
2021-06-04 22:25:12 <mc47> and I have to agree with davve, why didn't a 1.x version ever see the light?
2021-06-04 22:25:18 <mc47> is there even a versioning policy?
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2021-06-04 22:29:04 <allbery_b> habit, I think. we could have gone 1.0 with the 0.9 release
2021-06-04 22:29:08 <liskin> xmonad governance in general is quite chaotic, so no, there's absolutely no versioning policy
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2021-06-04 22:30:27 <liskin> I wonder why no one ever complained that the X11 library doesn't follow PVP
2021-06-04 22:30:39 <mc47> yeah, it's not like it's a pressing matter
2021-06-04 22:38:15 allbery_b is now known as geekosaur
2021-06-04 22:38:27 <geekosaur> I think there's like only one other consumer of X11
2021-06-04 22:42:43 <geekosaur> enh, packdeps/reverse claims there's a few more that aren't xmonad/xmobar-related
2021-06-04 23:01:13 <liskin> quite a few
2021-06-04 23:12:12 <geekosaur> many of the packages it brings up are things like X11-xft which then only have a few deps. and half the others are dead anyway (who uses bluetile?)
2021-06-04 23:17:33 <liskin> I used it last week :-)
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2021-06-05 00:02:35 <liskin> bluetile is cool as a practical demonstration that the floating layer doesn't need to be in core at all
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2021-06-05 08:33:52 <Industrial[m]> Hi. How do I increase the workspaces from 9 to 10? (with 0 added) ?
2021-06-05 08:34:31 <Industrial[m]> I want to try `XMonad.Actions.DynamicWorkspaces` for when I need ad-hoc workspaces but I want to show 10 by default :)
2021-06-05 08:35:05 Industrial[m] < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/9d78d8e63b85a4daf09105d213579328a8ada34a/message.txt >
2021-06-05 08:35:49 <Solid> doesn't show how?
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