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2021-02-11 17:08:51 <geekosaur> mm, did anyone get a notification about the xmonad-testing PR I opened yesterday?
2021-02-11 17:12:16 <Liskni_si> geekosaur: I did, but I know absolutely nothing about cabal so I don't feel qualified to comment on it
2021-02-11 17:13:08 <Liskni_si> s/cabal/cabal-install/
2021-02-11 17:15:43 <geekosaur> ok
2021-02-11 17:16:34 <geekosaur> I think it's still doing more than one could hope, kinda hard to tell on a system with an SSD :)  but the notice in the README should cover that and it'd apply to stack as well
2021-02-11 17:17:04 <geekosaur> (basically, the quick recompile check xmonad does is suppressed with a build script because xmonad has no idea what or where the build script is doing things)
2021-02-11 17:18:05 <geekosaur> it's a few seconds before xmonad starts up, but at least it's not showing an actual recompile going on, so I think it's just building and comparing build plans to what already exists
2021-02-11 17:18:22 nerdthatnoonelik joins (~nerdthatn@ip206.ip-51-81-119.us)
2021-02-11 17:18:25 <nerdthatnoonelik> hello everyone
2021-02-11 17:18:35 <nerdthatnoonelik> I have an issue with xmobar not launching with xmonad
2021-02-11 17:19:06 <nerdthatnoonelik> xmobar was launching with xmonad just fine but ever since i used a different config its not launching anymore
2021-02-11 17:19:15 <nerdthatnoonelik> i have to manually launch it from the terminal by running xmobar
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2021-02-11 17:20:57 <geekosaur> are you running xmonad from git by any chance?
2021-02-11 17:21:05 <geekosaur> otherwise, pastebin your config
2021-02-11 17:21:11 <geekosaur> @where paste
2021-02-11 17:21:11 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at eg https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2021-02-11 17:24:04 <nerdthatnoonelik> wdym from git?
2021-02-11 17:24:05 <nerdthatnoonelik> and ok i will paste my config in a pastebin
2021-02-11 17:24:48 <geekosaur> we've been overhauling the status bar support as part of preparing for a new release. if that didn't mean anything to you, it's reasonably certain you aren't :)
2021-02-11 17:25:57 <nerdthatnoonelik> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/EVO15aDf heres my xmobar config
2021-02-11 17:27:44 <geekosaur> hm. are all the fonts installed, and is your xmobar built with XFT support (should show in "xmobar --help" output)
2021-02-11 17:28:39 <nerdthatnoonelik> xmobar --help doesn't say anything about xft support and yes all the fonts are installed
2021-02-11 17:29:59 <Liskni_si> might be a good idea to check the log file for any errors xmobar might have printed
2021-02-11 17:30:09 <Liskni_si> not that I know which log file in particular
2021-02-11 17:30:42 <nerdthatnoonelik> my ~/.xmonad/xmonad.errors file doesn't have anything in it except for a deprecation warning
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2021-02-11 17:31:16 <geekosaur> that won't be the right file. normally it's either ~/.xsession-errors or something under journalctl
2021-02-11 17:33:05 <geekosaur> this is somewhat hard for me to debug as I don't run xmobar and have nowhere to put it on this machine (bars along the edges already, but I run mate-panel since I use mate integration with xmonad)
2021-02-11 17:35:50 <nerdthatnoonelik> ok my xsession-errors has the following errors related to xmobar "xmobar: eof at an early stage"
2021-02-11 17:43:30 <Solid> so what was the working config/
2021-02-11 17:43:51 <Solid> (the one that worked)
2021-02-11 17:43:54 <Solid> nerdthatnoonelik
2021-02-11 17:45:02 <nerdthatnoonelik> hang on i'll put in a pastebin
2021-02-11 17:45:35 <nerdthatnoonelik> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/K80zv7Bl
2021-02-11 17:46:21 <geekosaur> hm, wasn't that error noted as a bug recently? (sadly I don't see a way to search in our logs)
2021-02-11 17:47:13 <Solid> that error was just some left-over from debugging an issue that has since been removed from xmobar
2021-02-11 17:47:50 <Solid> nerdthatnoonelik: I can see that you're referring to two different home directories in the new config; is that correct?
2021-02-11 17:48:31 <nerdthatnoonelik> i changed that
2021-02-11 17:48:39 <nerdthatnoonelik> but xmobar still won
2021-02-11 17:48:45 <nerdthatnoonelik> *won't start
2021-02-11 17:53:52 <nerdthatnoonelik> but i can still start it by running xmobar in the shell
2021-02-11 17:55:23 <Solid> how are you starting it from within your xmonad config?
2021-02-11 17:57:09 <nerdthatnoonelik> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/ocDyU12n
2021-02-11 17:59:07 <Liskni_si> you're not writing anything into that xmproc pipe
2021-02-11 17:59:19 <nerdthatnoonelik> well that worked for my last xmobar config
2021-02-11 17:59:20 <Liskni_si> so the garbage collector closes it and xmobar terminates immediately
2021-02-11 17:59:25 <nerdthatnoonelik> oh
2021-02-11 17:59:37 <Liskni_si> this config couldn't have worked, ever
2021-02-11 18:00:44 <geekosaur> not exactly true, whether gc runs in a timely fashion or not depends on ghc / rts version
2021-02-11 18:01:05 <nerdthatnoonelik> but it did, my last xmobar config worked fine with it, i watched this video about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3noK4GTmyMw and he did the same
2021-02-11 18:01:29 <Solid> your last xmobar config didn't read from the pipe in any way
2021-02-11 18:01:39 <Solid> so it didn't matter that you ignored the input
2021-02-11 18:01:55 <nerdthatnoonelik> oh
2021-02-11 18:04:08 <nerdthatnoonelik> so how do i get xmobar to not terminate immediately
2021-02-11 18:05:04 <Solid> you are presumably using `xmproc' in your `default' function?
2021-02-11 18:05:59 <Solid> so add it as an argument; `defaults xmproc = ...` and call with `xmonad $ docks $ defaults xmproc'
2021-02-11 18:10:48 Solid now knows why people have this exact problem so often
2021-02-11 18:11:12 <Solid> this distrotube guy didn't test the configs he showed people in his video :/
2021-02-11 18:12:42 <geekosaur> everyone does this. they think that just using the pipe magically makes xmonad restart the dock when it's restarted / mod-q
2021-02-11 18:13:23 <geekosaur> nobody knows or cares how unix pipes work, or FD_CLOEXEC, or when gc happens
2021-02-11 18:14:43 <Solid> it's not even about that; it's about starting the pipe but then not feeding it to ppOutput at all
2021-02-11 18:15:46 <geekosaur> yes
2021-02-11 18:15:54 <geekosaur> I'm telling you why people cargo-cult it
2021-02-11 18:16:08 <Solid> oh
2021-02-11 18:16:27 <geekosaur> there is a mis-belief that, just because it's a pipe, xmonad will go hunt down and kill the process on restart
2021-02-11 18:16:57 <geekosaur> this is part of why the recent DynamicLog changes, so it *will* go hunt things down for users who cargo-cult it
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2021-02-11 19:00:04 <nerdthatnoonelik> So I'm still confused on what im supposed to add to fix xmobar stop closing
2021-02-11 19:00:37 <nerdthatnoonelik> because I don't know enough about haskell to know what you were talking about
2021-02-11 19:01:28 <mc47> do you want to feed xmobar data from xmonad or not?
2021-02-11 19:02:18 <geekosaur> your xmobar config has an unsafeStdinReader in it, which implies your xmonad config should be sending it output including xmobar escapes
2021-02-11 19:02:49 <nerdthatnoonelik> ah
2021-02-11 19:03:08 <nerdthatnoonelik> ok i just removed it and it worked, thanks for all the help guys!
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2021-02-11 19:03:17 <Solid> lol
2021-02-11 19:03:20 <mc47> hahaha
2021-02-11 19:03:59 <mc47> "The fastest hand in the West"
2021-02-11 19:04:33 <Solid> I guess that's the bad thing about a person who doesn't know haskell making that many xmonad videos :>
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