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2020-12-21 01:26:44 <annihilannic> first time trying xmonad today, how do I change alt-tab behaviour to use a 'most-recently-used' stack? looking at XMonda.ActionsCycleWindows but it seems to be for cycling the window content, not the focus
2020-12-21 01:30:20 <annihilannic> Also how can I change the workspace switching to use ctrl-alt-<n> instead of alt-<n> (which I use for switching irssi channels)
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2020-12-21 01:46:14 <vrs> most people use mod4 (the windows key) as mod key to avoid exactly this issue, too many applications use alt
2020-12-21 01:50:42 <vrs> I would've expected CycleWindows to solve your problem, but I've never used it and your reading seems right
2020-12-21 02:02:41 <annihilannic> vrs: makes sense, do you have a reference for how to change xmonad.hs to do that? I'm trying to get my head around the extensions documenation, but this haskell... is hurting my OCD tendencies
2020-12-21 02:02:54 <annihilannic> vrs: lines beginning with commas.... yeurgh!
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2020-12-21 02:03:29 <vrs> you needn't do that, it's just an idiom that makes the commas line up with the { and }
2020-12-21 02:03:38 <vrs> you can do traditional commas too
2020-12-21 02:03:55 <vrs> to use the win key, modMask = mod4Mask
2020-12-21 02:04:26 <vrs> (next to where you also set the terminal)
2020-12-21 02:07:24 <annihilannic> I'm not sure what you mean by 'next to where you also set the terminal'. I'm starting from the vanilla xmonad.hs which was delivered with the CentOS xmonad 0.11 package: https://termbin.com/pvuk
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2020-12-21 02:14:05 <annihilannic> Trying to get my head around http://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Doc-Extending.html#g:9 - the example of a complete xmonad.hs at the end of 'Adding key bindings' looks quite different to the one I'm starting with.
2020-12-21 02:17:03 <annihilannic> It recommends using XMonad.Util.CustomKeys but I don't seem to have xmonad-contrib, nor is it in the repository xmonad came from, strangely.
2020-12-21 02:18:16 <annihilannic> Perhaps xmonad-0.11 is too old for these docs to be relevant.
2020-12-21 02:23:59 <annihilannic> I'm thinking i3wm may be a better choice for my first foray into tiling WM, seems the bar is set lower there. ;-)
2020-12-21 02:24:23 <vrs> https://hastebin.com/fovukaqupo.rb
2020-12-21 02:24:44 <coldpress> annihilannic: it's a simple text config, which is good, but also bad
2020-12-21 02:25:28 <annihilannic> coldpress: Yeah, I can see that, good discussion here: https://www.reddit.com/r/xmonad/comments/4c1ukl/why_is_i3_getting_more_popular_than_xmonad/
2020-12-21 02:26:03 <vrs> I believe you ought to be able to replace desktopConfig with desktopConfig { modMask = mod4Mask }
2020-12-21 02:26:44 <annihilannic> vrs: I'm assuming I can't replace my entire config with that? oh, okay, I'll try that.
2020-12-21 02:27:25 <annihilannic> What value are those existing importas for Gnome/Kde/etc. if I'm not currently running them. Does running applications belonging to those DEs within xmonad benefit from some of those settings?
2020-12-21 02:27:25 <vrs> yeah my config is 400 lines overall, and I'm somewhat rusty as I've written most of it 5 years ago
2020-12-21 02:28:22 <annihilannic> Can I reload config on the fly?
2020-12-21 02:28:34 <vrs> mod+q
2020-12-21 02:29:05 <annihilannic> Hmm... no change.
2020-12-21 02:30:23 <vrs> desktopConfig is just a default config with some support for ewmh (fullscreen support etc) and status bars it seems https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/src/XMonad.Config.Desktop.html#desktopConfig
2020-12-21 02:34:37 <annihilannic> Hrm... okay, my next thought was log out and log in again. How do you log out?? :-)
2020-12-21 02:34:50 <annihilannic> xmonad --restart seems to do nothing
2020-12-21 02:35:06 <vrs> xmonad --restart will do just that, it'll take over all existing windows
2020-12-21 02:36:17 <annihilannic> ... and presumably I should see a fresh new 'xmonad' process running, but I don't?
2020-12-21 02:37:03 <vrs> if you see the window borders flicker, then it's working
2020-12-21 02:37:06 <By_JumperX4[m]> <annihilannic "Hrm... okay, my next thought was"> mod + shift + q
2020-12-21 02:37:06 <By_JumperX4[m]> also check `xmonad --recompile`
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