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2021-02-08 13:18:19 <geekosaur> Solid, so the last release works but git somehow doesn't? sigh
2021-02-08 13:22:31 <geekosaur> git reset --hard doesn't do it (I did futz around a bit, so figured I'd doublecheck)
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2021-02-08 13:30:35 <Solid> geekosaur: I just tested it again, and the release definitely works (I did a `cabal install xmonad --lib xmonad --lib xmonad-contrib')
2021-02-08 13:31:10 <geekosaur> interesting
2021-02-08 13:31:12 <Solid> will try to test this with git tonight
2021-02-08 13:31:43 <geekosaur> maybe I should try this again with the released version. but I'm kinda leery of messing with what is now a working setup :)
2021-02-08 13:32:01 <geekosaur> (after having to fix a small nit this morning)
2021-02-08 13:32:27 <Solid> hah, very understandable :)
2021-02-08 13:33:49 <geekosaur> especially since the obvious doesn't tend to work (moving dirs around breaks cabal, iirc)
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2021-02-08 13:37:02 <geekosaur> so meantime I removed the git X11 from  my project and it does indeed build. sigh
2021-02-08 13:37:13 <geekosaur> so maybe I'll mess with this today
2021-02-08 13:37:57 <geekosaur> hm, actually cabal should be mostly ok with moving dirs around since it's not installing stuff under here, it's installing to its stash area which isn't moving. I can hope
2021-02-08 13:41:00 <geekosaur> aaaand it completed. suppose I should repeat with this in an XDG dir and see how that works in git (should override my v1 setup in ~/.xmonad)
2021-02-08 13:43:16 geekosaur suddenly wonders if the instructions in the README are out of date and it takes more than autoreconf to prep a repo for build
2021-02-08 13:43:34 <geekosaur> I mean they already assume cabal 1.x/2.x
2021-02-08 13:49:32 <geekosaur> moved it and it's rebuilding everything. at least it didn't crash because everything was in the wrong place >.>
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2021-02-08 13:53:15 <geekosaur> @index getXdgDirectory
2021-02-08 13:53:15 <lambdabot> bzzt
2021-02-08 13:53:19 <geekosaur> bah
2021-02-08 13:59:52 <geekosaur> (System.Directory, if anyone cares)
2021-02-08 14:00:14 <geekosaur> v1 setup working still, need to move stuff to try v2
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2021-02-08 14:16:55 <geekosaur> blegh. so it builds but I can't find the executable via cabal mechanisms, it claims not to find the "package" which is my xmonad config
2021-02-08 14:19:28 <geekosaur> oh, that's my fault. hack for the v1 stuff >.>
2021-02-08 14:22:21 <geekosaur> blah, and it rebuilds everything
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2021-02-08 14:29:32 <geekosaur> success, I think. still rather slow though to use cabal "properly" in v2 mode with a build script, for some reason the install step is slow even though it should just be linking an existing file from the cabal build step.
2021-02-08 14:30:51 <geekosaur> have to see if it's still slow tomorrow when I log in
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2021-02-08 14:31:00 <geekosaur> or this afternoon depending on how things work out
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2021-02-08 14:37:39 <Liskni_si> I have no idea what stack does internally but I didn't even need to autoreconf X11
2021-02-08 14:37:49 <Liskni_si> (when building from git)
2021-02-08 14:38:34 <geekosaur> interesting
2021-02-08 14:39:03 <geekosaur> I forgot the autoreconf the first time and still got the same error, so the same thing may be happening with cabal. but it wasn't enough
2021-02-08 14:39:24 <geekosaur> (that was why I did the git reset --hard, in case the attempt left some garbage I'd missed around)
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2021-02-08 15:19:38 <mc47> Does setting `_JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING=1` fix the java problem for all scenarios, or are there some exceptions?
2021-02-08 15:20:42 <mc47> Since we have XMonad.Util.Hacks now, it might be a good idea to add the java hack(s?) there
2021-02-08 15:21:42 Liskni_si has no idea
2021-02-08 15:22:00 <Liskni_si> I still run with both this env var and setwmname LG3D, and I don't use java apps very often anyway :-/
2021-02-08 15:22:39 <mc47> Me neither, I only use it with Isabelle/jEdit (since it's the only reasonable way to use Isabelle/HOL without going crazy) and it seems to do the job
2021-02-08 15:23:09 <mc47> Ah yes I tried intelliJ for like a day (never again) and it also solves the problem there too
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2021-02-08 15:24:44 <Liskni_si> the LG3D hack was probably only relevant back when people actually used binary Java from Sun
2021-02-08 15:24:54 <Liskni_si> and there is no Sun any more
2021-02-08 15:25:33 <Liskni_si> but I wouldn't be suprised if some academic still used the same stuff they used 15 years ago because it still does the job :-)
2021-02-08 15:25:42 <Liskni_si> (which means they wouldn't upgrade xmonad either)
2021-02-08 15:27:39 <mc47> Huh, so I guess there's nothing to lose if we add it there
2021-02-08 15:29:00 Solid doesn't use any of the java hacks and has never had a problem the few times he had to interact with java applications
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2021-02-08 15:44:09 <mc47> The workaround for Isabelle/jEdit for the java problem while using awesome or xmonad, is literally "Use a regular re-parenting X11 window manager." :D
2021-02-08 15:45:21 <Liskni_si> mc47: I thought setting _JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING worked for you; does it not?
2021-02-08 15:45:41 <mc47> yes, it does
2021-02-08 15:46:00 <mc47> it wasn't clear, I was quoting the Isabelle/jEdit manual
2021-02-08 15:46:21 <Liskni_si> oh
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