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| 2021-03-18 20:07:28 | <kiki_kiki> | hello, can i ask for help with making a specific layout in here? thank you |
| 2021-03-18 20:09:28 | <mc47> | kiki_kiki sure, what do you have in mind? |
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| 2021-03-18 20:12:08 | <kiki_kiki> | mc47: thank you, https://www.reddit.com/r/xmonad/comments/3vowqx/hybrid_talltabbed_layout/ this but with the master window tabbed. i've tried playing around with the comments in there on top of my existing layout (which is basically just default Tall wrapped in spacingRaw and smartBorders) but couldn't get it to work |
| 2021-03-18 20:12:56 | <kiki_kiki> | uhhhh |
| 2021-03-18 20:17:59 | <Liskni_si> | Guest40: debian testing with maybe a bit of unstable; who uses stable on their daily driver? :-) |
| 2021-03-18 20:18:48 | <Guest40> | Liskni_si how would you rate testing vs arch/void, i am looking for new distro |
| 2021-03-18 20:18:53 | <Guest40> | to pair with xmonad |
| 2021-03-18 20:19:09 | <Guest40> | stability wise and some other stuff |
| 2021-03-18 20:19:29 | <kiki_kiki> | http://ix.io/2Tlb i barely know any haskell so i m not sure how/where to place "Tabbed" and/or "|||s" etc to make it work |
| 2021-03-18 20:21:16 | <Liskni_si> | Guest40: I find testing good enough for me, although compared to aur it's definitely missing lots of packages, but then my priority is a system that works, not having loads of crap, so … :-) |
| 2021-03-18 20:22:21 | <Liskni_si> | Guest40: the major pain point of Arch is that pacman doesn't support partial upgrades and downgrades, whereas in Debian it's completely fine to roll back a broken update and wait until it's fixed |
| 2021-03-18 20:22:49 | <Liskni_si> | but for some reason nobody talks about this, so maybe it's not a problem for most people? dunno. it's a complete blocker for me |
| 2021-03-18 20:24:13 | <Guest40> | yeah, rollbracks are nice. I am trying out NixOs, good haskell + xmonad support, decclarative config, rollbacks. But having some issues with firefox and it's a lot different than regular linux. they say sid gets security patches faster (but it's less stable?) |
| 2021-03-18 20:26:36 | <Guest40> | Liskni_si anyways, thanks. so you recommend debian tesing + few packages from sid (like firefox 86) right? |
| 2021-03-18 20:27:47 | <geekosaur> | it's named sid for a reason. every so often they do things like release a new glibc with no support from anything else so the rest of the system gets deleted:) (I think they're more careful about this these days but I recall it happening a few times back when I ran sid for kicks) |
| 2021-03-18 20:29:18 | <Liskni_si> | testing is basically a week after unstable, but sometimes stuff gets held a bit longer, either if people report breaking stuff or if something big is being changed |
| 2021-03-18 20:30:06 | <Liskni_si> | and yeah, security fixes to testing come a bit late too |
| 2021-03-18 20:30:29 | <Guest40> | how often it broke for you when updated in a year Liskni_si |
| 2021-03-18 20:30:41 | <Guest40> | geekosaur makes sense thanks |
| 2021-03-18 20:30:44 | <Liskni_si> | there's testing-security that's supposed to be used by the same team that does security updates for stable for high priority stuff, but I don't recall ever getting an update through that |
| 2021-03-18 20:31:14 | <Liskni_si> | so it's basically me reading the LWN security summary through rss and pulling updates manually if it sounds bad |
| 2021-03-18 20:31:26 | <Liskni_si> | (and stuff that's bad usually gets talked about on irc as well) |
| 2021-03-18 20:32:02 | <Liskni_si> | I wouldn't really say I recommend it to everyone, but it's the best tradeoff for me personally |
| 2021-03-18 20:32:32 | <Liskni_si> | how many times it breaks? dunno. I don't recall it ever really breaking, and I've been running testing for 15+ years without reinstall |
| 2021-03-18 20:32:51 | <Guest40> | wow, that;s some longevity |
| 2021-03-18 20:32:53 | <Liskni_si> | but packages that need to be rolled back, yeah that happens a couple times a year |
| 2021-03-18 20:33:06 | <Liskni_si> | most people would just get used to stuff being slightly broken |
| 2021-03-18 20:34:18 | <Guest40> | I will have to try it, thanks Liskni_si |
| 2021-03-18 20:34:18 | <mc47> | kiki_kiki, sorry, I'm not that familiar with tabbed layouts just yet |
| 2021-03-18 20:34:20 | <Liskni_si> | but when a printer driver breaks, you can't print, and sometimes you need to print :-) |
| 2021-03-18 20:34:36 | <kiki_kiki> | mc47: ok, thank you |
| 2021-03-18 20:35:12 | <geekosaur> | what's the question again? |
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| 2021-03-18 20:39:21 | <geekosaur> | you wouldn't use ||| here unless you were prepending or appending this to the default list of layouts (`layoutHook def`) |
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| 2021-03-18 20:41:24 | <geekosaur> | hm, I do wonder if this could be done using threeColMid as a Combo or ComboP frame |
| 2021-03-18 20:41:33 | <geekosaur> | but I'm going to have to run off soon :/ |
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| 2021-03-19 08:52:29 | <Solid> | Liskni_si, mc47: I think my tired brain didn't say what I wanted to say; it should read "I picked trayer because I want help with it and I know people use it around here" instead of "I defer to these people to tell you why stalonetray is bad" :D |
| 2021-03-19 08:52:32 | <Solid> | sorry for the confusion |
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| 2021-03-19 08:54:02 | <Solid> | mc47: another good first issue: the screenshot for X.L.ThreeColumns is broken |
| 2021-03-19 08:57:03 | <Liskni_si> | Solid: yeah I think I got the message, but I haven't really got to reviewing the tutorial, so I only answered the stalonetray vs trayer question |
| 2021-03-19 08:57:24 | <Solid> | ah I see |
| 2021-03-19 08:57:39 | <Solid> | no rush with looking at the tutorial :) |
| 2021-03-19 08:58:10 | <Liskni_si> | it seems lots of others are looking, so it's okay if I don't :-) |
| 2021-03-19 08:58:48 | <Liskni_si> | minimizing work in progress, focusing on completing stuff rather than starting new tasks, and all that |
| 2021-03-19 08:59:00 | <Solid> | Yes! I'm really happy to read new names in the reviews |
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