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2021-05-26 18:32:53 <edwardk> bontaq: its a mix of au de haskell hackathon and new channel smell. we'll get the mix right eventually. the former should... resolve itself once working from home guidelines go back to closer to normal
2021-05-26 18:33:09 <edwardk> er eau de
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2021-05-26 18:34:38 <agumonke`> some people like to think free floating and grow organic solutions
2021-05-26 18:34:41 <edwardk> working on some stuff, dealing with this nonsense, then packing tomorrow and driving 9 hours the next day.
2021-05-26 18:34:48 <agumonke`> some people prefer strict thinking framework
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2021-05-26 18:35:12 <edwardk> so i guess the drive is downtime, but still stress.
2021-05-26 18:35:26 <maerwald> agumonke`: yeah, but I think most of the programming community doesn't see it that way but is trying to figure out the "one right way", not understanding the psychological factors
2021-05-26 18:35:33 <maerwald> and focussing on technical aspects only
2021-05-26 18:35:36 <agumonke`> probably
2021-05-26 18:35:38 <sm> edwardk: best of luck. Just forget old #haskell if you need to, people will figure this out
2021-05-26 18:35:45 <Vq> edwardk: Take it easy
2021-05-26 18:35:45 <[exa]> so where do we purchase l'eau de haskell?
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2021-05-26 18:36:08 <edwardk> sm: its up, its sort of there for the matrix and tor users still trapped there.
2021-05-26 18:36:38 <Vq> edwardk: It looks pretty dead to me.
2021-05-26 18:36:47 <sm> I'm not sure having it up is better to be honest
2021-05-26 18:36:54 <edwardk> i'm ever so mildly amused that the topic for ##haskell on freenode is now '#haskell discussion', and that the obvious recursive channels are present.
2021-05-26 18:36:56 <sm> but you don't want to hear that.. quiet sm
2021-05-26 18:37:03 <edwardk> but that's basically mild stress relief.
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2021-05-26 18:38:15 <Vq> Really? Who set that topic?
2021-05-26 18:38:27 <monochrom> edwardk did :)
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2021-05-26 18:38:36 <monochrom> with ideas from people
2021-05-26 18:39:02 <edwardk> it also links to https://haskell.org/irc
2021-05-26 18:39:16 <Vq> ##haskell is about discussing the killed channel or the channel here?
2021-05-26 18:39:17 <edwardk> because any direct link to where channels are might provoke the eye of sauron
2021-05-26 18:39:20 <monochrom> OK, I am not sure edwardk did. I just have correlations suggesting entanglement.
2021-05-26 18:39:27 <edwardk> i did
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2021-05-26 18:39:46 <sm> Vq: there's a fair bit of meta discussion right now, it'll pass
2021-05-26 18:39:56 <sm> usually we discuss Haskell here :)
2021-05-26 18:39:59 <monochrom> The other thing edwardk did was creating DNS entry irc.cofreenode.net to alias to freenode.
2021-05-26 18:40:01 <hpc> edwardk: are we allowed to set the topic to "this is no longer the official channel and we can't tell you why"?
2021-05-26 18:40:08 <edwardk> there's ####haskell for '###haskell discussion' as well. but #####haskell is a redirect that internally has a haskell topic indicating no more than 3 levels of recursion is ever really required'
2021-05-26 18:40:08 <Vq> sm: ok, I'm still in #haskell and it's nice and quiet.
2021-05-26 18:40:24 <monochrom> The rest of us are supposed to take inspiration and register forgetfulnode etc.
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2021-05-26 18:40:33 <edwardk> hpc: no. that'll get us booted out leaving nobody there to fight spammers, til someone comes along without 'an agenda' or something.
2021-05-26 18:40:42 <maerwald> no more than 3 levels of recursion :D
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2021-05-26 18:40:50 <maerwald> should be enough for everyone
2021-05-26 18:41:10 <hpc> :(
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2021-05-26 18:41:22 <monochrom> Well the cycle could be seen as a joke on Haskell cyclic lazy list.
2021-05-26 18:41:27 <edwardk> Vq: if you disconnect you'll get redirected to ##haskell
2021-05-26 18:41:28 <Vq> edwardk: Won't that happen regardless when you keel over from trying to manage this?
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2021-05-26 18:41:38 <edwardk> Vq: well, yes.
2021-05-26 18:41:56 <monochrom> https://ro-che.info/ccc/9
2021-05-26 18:42:09 <edwardk> thats why i've been taking out the stress by making stupid TANSTAAFN jokes and point irc.cofreenode.net as irc.freenode.net
2021-05-26 18:42:12 <edwardk> er pointing
2021-05-26 18:42:19 <monochrom> "you need to wake from pure dream to IO reality to observe the cycle"
2021-05-26 18:43:37 <edwardk> i'm not yet ready to rename Cofree to Lee, but it may wind up as shorthand in some of my code.
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2021-05-26 18:44:52 <agumonke`> i keep learning about monads, cps, streambased logical programming
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2021-05-26 18:45:14 <agumonke`> but I can't store trees in on disk for a small app
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2021-05-26 18:45:25 <statusbot> Status Bot enabled for #haskell
2021-05-26 18:45:32 <agumonke`> i blame haskell for all my mysery in life
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2021-05-26 18:49:18 <[exa]> agumonke`: who told you that you can't store trees on disk?
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2021-05-26 18:50:03 <[exa]> (disks are full of trees)
2021-05-26 18:50:17 <monochrom> That can go philosophical very quickly regarding whether you're storing a tree or an encoding of such.
2021-05-26 18:50:43 <monochrom> And feel free to contemplate "what is a disk?" too >:)
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